Does your job require a permit? - Page 11 - DIY Chatroom

3dfan · 06-30-2009, 01:47 AM

My regrets to those who suffered from "permit problems" - luckily I don't have such problems

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DMDz · 08-31-2009, 03:53 PM

How sad is this, I am in the business of drawing details for permits. I can not stand the process here in Newport Beach, CA. As the rules here are made so you can pretty much can't build anything with shape, and make sure its smaller then the last year!

I love drafting, but these guys are just out of control with these silly rules. The funny thing is I can go over to the next town, 5 minutes away and get all new rules that are much easier, and make sense.

So its not just the med field that needs a change

Dave

**thekctermite** · 09-02-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aggie67

One person asked me to sign off on his unpermitted deck 6 years after install so he could sell the property. I had to decline. He had to get the deck rebuilt. Footings were salvaged, sidewalk leading up to it was salvaged. Electrical was torn out and left out.

So many engineers prostitute themselves out on this sort of thing, it is refreshing that there are still engineers and others in the trades out there with principles, morality and a sense of liability. Well done.

**AtlanticWBConst.** · 09-02-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thekctermite

So many engineers prostitute themselves out on this sort of thing, it is refreshing that there are still engineers and others in the trades out there with principles, morality and a sense of liability. Well done.

I've run into similar circumstances KCT. I'd never put my License on the line for anyone, or any amount of money.

Beyond the ethics of it, it's just plain common sense to most decent people.

BTW - You need to lighten up on the postings, you're getting a little too far ahead of me.

**thekctermite** · 09-02-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst.

BTW - You need to lighten up on the postings, you're getting a little too far ahead of me.

Scuba Dave will have exceeded both our post counts within a month! I'm thinking Vegas is taking odds on the date.

**Scuba_Dave** · 09-02-2009, 10:39 PM

I'm still 1400 back, maybe when the kids are born & you are napping when they are

1400/18 posts per day = 78 days to catch up to current post count. Not counting additional posts made during that time
But if you are making say 10 posts a day then I only gain 8 a day
So 1400/8 = 175 days to catch up
So sometime in March maybe

But I will lose time once I start setting up for Halloween
Which I will need to start towards the end of Sept

gma2rjc · 09-02-2009, 11:08 PM

Thanks for changing the 'you' to 'your' in the title of this thread.

**Scuba_Dave** · 09-02-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gma2rjc

Thanks for changing the 'you' to 'your' in the title of this thread.

It bugged me every time I saw it
I kept meaning to....finally I did

gma2rjc · 09-03-2009, 01:11 AM

Debbiesue · 09-04-2009, 05:24 PM

I live in Newport News Virginia. My project is to install sote facing onto an existing fireplace. The stone will not extend into the firebox or alter the fireplace in any way other than appearance The fireplace is a zero clearnce type and has a black metal insert in it. The stone will go ver the exsisting slate and up to but not onto the metal at all. Do I need a permit for this?

**thekctermite** · 09-04-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Debbiesue

I live in Newport News Virginia. My project is to install sote facing onto an existing fireplace. The stone will not extend into the firebox or alter the fireplace in any way other than appearance The fireplace is a zero clearnce type and has a black metal insert in it. The stone will go ver the exsisting slate and up to but not onto the metal at all. Do I need a permit for this?

The only way to know for sure is to call your local inspections department. I doubt they'll fuss much. Be sure to let them know it is a zero clearance unit and you're only adding stone around it for aesthetics. If you're leaving the existing framing as-is and are simply adding some stone veneer on the existing surfaces they may not care to see it.

If it is a woodburning fireplace, there are circumstances that warrant inspections and permits. Modifications to the hearth extension, mantle and surround all have applicable codes.

On remodels the way I treat this is if you're making modifications to an existing fireplace you bring the portions that are being modified up to code. If you're working on the hearth I'd make you bring it up to code dimensions but if that's all you're doing I'm not going to measure the smoke chamber that is 20 years old to see if it meets current code.

Very interpretive issue. Make the phonecall and they'll let you know what to do, if anything.

mike6x7 · 10-27-2009, 10:33 PM

I've had 4 houses and have always been a DIY junkie. I will research how to do something if I've never done it before ( Duh, that's why I'm HERE), and I will build it to code. But every house I've owned has gotten a deck and new flooring, a couple I put in recessed lighting, one I remodeled two of the bathrooms, replace some windows, etc, etc. and never even thought about getting a permit and I never had a problem selling the houses or had an inspector question the house having a deck now that it didn't when I bought it.
Yes, Inspectors are there to make sure the job is done right. IMO that responsibility falls on the person doing the job, i.e. me. I don't want my house to burn down, or fall down for that matter, so it's my job to do it right. Years ago when permits were cheap, they were for safety. now they are just fundraisers

gripp2020 · 11-05-2009, 01:07 PM

I live in (around atlanta) Ga. My county wants a purmit for EVERYTHING!! My basement is 1600 sq. I will do as much of it as i can myself. I do have one of the guys who built my house (2 years ago) to help me frame it. I will get licensed guys to "help" with electrical and plumbing. I plan to do everything to code, just not pull the permit for it. My friend lives in the county next to mine, and his county does not require them to get one but mine does. Also, my house was built (of course) with a permit for the house with the basement so if im only adding NONE LOADBEARING WALLS what the heck is their problem?? The code reads

"The fee, rounded to the nearest dollar, is calculated as follows: $41.44 multiplied by the total heated square feet and the result then multiplied by $0.006, and $6 per $1,000 of estimated construction cost for each unheated square foot (minimum fee is $30), plus a $25 Certificate of Occupancy fee. Fees must be paid at time of permit issuance."

Ok mine came out to about 450 to 500 bucks. I said thanks and left the office. The other problem with this is that i was told that it will ADD another $300 to my monthly payment. Taxes are high as hell here any way, for real. I CANT AFFORD THAT!! I was thinking i would video and take pics to show what was done at the beginning of each part in case i got caught and need to prove it so that i dont have to pull the damn walls down. I am paying for this out of my own part time job money so i dont have the money to waist. I went to HD and Lowes and lots of guys finnished theirs and didnt pull permits.

Just picking your brain pans...

**Scuba_Dave** · 11-05-2009, 01:12 PM

If caught they can make you take it down to bare studs so they see how everything is framed & wired
I doubt many inspectors would take the pics & video as proof since you avoided the inspection process

gripp2020 · 11-05-2009, 01:50 PM

Ok, is it possible to get a permit just for individual parts. I dont know how long this will take since im paying for it myself. Can i get a permit now JUST for framming? Then later on get one for elec. HVAC and so on? OR can i hire my own licensed inspecter to serve as proff the job was done to code??