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johnsorious 03-27-2013 07:36 PM

Difficulty of Residing house and replacing roof
 
Is it hard for a beginner diy'er to replace the roof on a one story house? How about replacing the wood siding with vinyl? I used to do electrical back in high school (5 years ago). The house I'm looking at would need those replaced and was wondering if the average person could do it correctly.

Is their any good guides that show you how to do either of them? I can't find any good ones on google.

Gymschu 03-27-2013 09:47 PM

Youtube has dozens and dozens of videos detailing how to do both. I have done both and I was not an accomplished DIYer at the time. I removed THREE yes, three layers of shingles from my single story home and reshingled with architectural shingles and, although it was backbreaking work, it wasn't technically difficult as long as you give some thought to what you are doing and keep your shingle lines straight.

Vinyl siding is fairly easy once you get the hang of it. Like I said, hit up youtube for the "how to" videos and you will quickly figure it all out.

Fix'n it 03-27-2013 09:49 PM

it not hard. but, it is a lot of work. the more help you have, the easier it will be. google vids to see how its done. then judge for yourself.

joecaption 03-28-2013 07:12 AM

Please go back and add your location to your profile, just go to Quick links to edit.

When doing a roof I like to have at least 3, people. Two on the roof and one on the ground cleaning up.
Need to come up with a plan on how to haul away the old shingles.
The easyest way but most expencive is to rent a dumpster.
Second best is to rent a dump trailer.
Last would be to use a pickup truck, if you have to do it this way line the bed of the truck with a tarp big enough it can line the bed and lay up over the cab. Once the bed is full you flip the trap over the load to stop any tar paper from flying out.
Lay a tarp over any shrub, decks or stoops.
Make sure there's one where the shingles drop off of the roof to cut down on the time to clean up nails.
I strongly suggest not just shingling over the old shingles to try and save the trouble of removing them!

Check into getting roof top delivery! Each bundle weighs at least 75 lb. and it get old real quick getting them up on the roof.
If there's no drip caps on the edges, add them.
Add Storm and Ice shield from the lower edge of the roof to past the heated area of the home.
Replace all the seals around the roof vents.
Concider adding a ridge vent.

Can you post a picture of the outside of the house?

Maintenance 6 03-28-2013 08:12 AM

A person of average intelligence can learn how to do roofing and vinyl siding. Find some real honest to goodness books about the subjects, then look at You-tube videos. There are no video police out there making sure that you-tube videos are providing good information. Some are pretty bad. If the house is structurally sound, then it makes sense to go after the roof first. But, it is important for you to formulate a plan. For example, you don't want to replace the roof and then decide later that you want to add a ridge vent. You don't want to install siding and then later decide that you want to replace the front door with a pre-hung unit. I would make a list ofeverything that you want or need to accomplish and put them in order of how they need to be completed. It will save you agravation and money. As you go, there are plenty of good people on here to help you out with questions.

kwikfishron 03-28-2013 09:22 AM

Keep in mind that nailing siding to the walls and shingles on the roof is just the icing on the cake and most of the critical details are what you can't see that's underneath.

Understanding how the drainage plane works and "properly flashing all protrusions" whether on the wall or roof is key.

It doesn't matter how pretty you can make it if you end up with leaks.

There can be leaks present for years sometimes before you'll ever notice them inside of the house and by then you may end up with serious and expensive structural issues.

cgoll 03-28-2013 02:30 PM

I've resided a house with vinyl before. It wasn't too hard.

Had to remove cedar shake and also replaced all the windows and the sliding door. I started with the side of the house that no one really saw and worked my way around so that the front was the last part I did.

If you can take your time and have basic building skills, I'm sure you could do it. As M6 said, think about replacing any windows or doors while the siding is off.

One other piece of advice; buy your material from a local business who has knowledgeable staff who can give you accurate advice when you run into non-standard situations.

A roof? Not for me...

SquishyBall 03-28-2013 03:01 PM

The average homeowner? No way. I'd guess most homeowners would not do a roof or siding themselves. Average DIY'er tho, probably yes. An inquisitive, capable builder-type person who is generally handy and owns some tools like a compressor - yes. But that's not average.

Hardest part like everyone said is the grunt work. Getting siding home. We did cement board -- overfilled our truck, bent the door (whoops!) Getting shingles onto the roof. Up and down the ladder, the first 3 packs are ok then you're exhausted.

Do you have solid underlayment? You might need to add that. Then 4x8 sheets onto the roof is just as fun.

Disposing of the trash. Lots of heavy bulk trash.

Once you're on the roof, with your paper and your shingles, from then on it's really pleasant work. You get to sit in the sun, put on sunscreen, and just work your way along.

Siding is less fun. Lots of measuring and cutting, and up and down the ladder. But if you've got the time, the committment, and the energy, go for it.

cgoll 03-28-2013 03:20 PM

I forgot about the tools... When you save thousands of $$$ on labor, it is real easy to justify hundreds of $$ on tools!

Tools that I still have and use today. FTW!

johnsorious 03-31-2013 02:05 PM

Never mind. The house I'm looking at just had its roof replaced. I would need to rip down the siding and replace it with vinyl.

How difficult is that? The house is a one floor ranch with 1000sqf. How much would I spend do you think?

What would I need to buy also?

joecaption 03-31-2013 02:30 PM

Without a picture it's hard to say how hard it will be.
No one's going to even be guessing how much any jobs going to cost, way to many factors involved.
Even if someone did guess, what good would it do you, it's not going to be right.

PoleCat 04-01-2013 08:18 AM

What kind of siding does it already have? If it is an older home with tongue and groove wood siding you may find that it is all that is there. (don't take that off!)

ToolSeeker 04-01-2013 09:00 AM

Beautify America outlaw vinyl siding.

kwikfishron 04-01-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1150113)
Beautify America outlaw vinyl siding.

I'm working on it! :)

Fix'n it 04-01-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1150113)
Beautify America outlaw vinyl siding.

maybe, sometimes. i think the double dutch lap looks nice.
anyway.
often times doing anything else is over building for the neighborhood.
if i did double dutch on my house, and it is the top candidate right now. my house would look way better than it does now. bang for buck.


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