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Old 03-02-2011, 01:41 PM   #16
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Evil, no problems, here, we just have to ask alot of questions to give you the best answers.

I would say that the wall you are trying to remove is load bearing, I say this as the likelyhood of the floor above being built of 16 ft long 2 x 12 is not likely.

My guess is the floor above is fabricated of 2 x 8's, overlapped and supported by the wall you are thinking of removing.

That leads me to another question, what is supporting the second story floor to the right of the wall you want remove.

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Edit - Did you or someone prior to your owning this house, remove the section to the right of the section we are talking about?

Regardless of who removed it, the supporting double 2 x 4 (at least this is what it looks like) is inadequate.

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Do the roof rafters run in the same direction as the ceiling joists in the first floor?
What size are they?
The garage is under the house, you said with the wall under the kitchen wall. The basement is on the other side of the garage wall? There are no support poles in your basement at all.
Which way do the floor joists run on the first floor? Perpendicular to the kitchen wall or parallel?
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Well Evil, I think that you can remove the wall section if the partition wall in the basement runs parallel with and under the wall you are removing, but not without first temperarily supporting the second story floor on both sides of the wall for the whole 10 ft span.

You then have to remove the 4 ft wall sectopm and existing supports across the entire opening and add a header going completely across the 10 ft opening, By my estimate the header will be made of 2 x 2x10's supported by at least 3 x 2x4 on both ends.

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Evil, no problems, here, we just have to ask alot of questions to give you the best answers.

I would say that the wall you are trying to remove is load bearing, I say this as the likelyhood of the floor above being built of 16 ft long 2 x 12 is not likely.

My guess is the floor above is fabricated of 2 x 8's, overlapped and supported by the wall you are thinking of removing.

That leads me to another question, what is supporting the second story floor to the right of the wall you want remove.

EVERYTHING is orginal to the house. There are 2 2x4's (to make a 3 x 3.5 post) at the on end of the double top plates

Mark

Edit - Did you or someone prior to your owning this house, remove the section to the right of the section we are talking about?

It is all orginal!? From what I have seen, (BUT NOW I will HAVE to go check tonight to satisfy my own curosity haha) They are solid 2 x 8s. They do NOT appear to be supported by the walll in question. I will take some more picks tonight just so you guys can see what I am talking about.

Regardless of who removed it, the supporting double 2 x 4 (at least this is what it looks like) is inadequate.
More pics to follow

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