"Defogging" double-pane windows .... a gimmick?? - Page 8 - DIY Chatroom

eqppwqqep · 09-09-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TjbDIY

Thanks for the reply, I actually found an old black and decker rotary tool ( dremel like ) that I got as a gift about 10 years ago and promptly forgot about. I bought a $3 dremel bit from Home Depot and made 2 holes in opposing corners of the window.

It was no problem at all, each hole took about 10-15 mins, I used little to no pressure and let the tool do the work, the holes are really clean.

I'll wait for the window to defog and then decide if I need to clean it with a syringe before adding some kind of valve / tape solution.

Thanks again for a great thread, I'll post pics of my process start to finish once I'm done.

I should have made pics of mine. I am astounded with the results. I literally had water droplet running down between my panes. It looked like someone was getting up before me every day and spraying inside the window pane with a garden hose. 1 week later and absolutely no moisture. One thing I will recommend is that you let all the moisture in there dry out before trying to clean. Had I done this, I wouldn't have to clean it out now. I actually inserted more junk in the window than was originally there.

TjbDIY · 09-19-2009, 10:58 AM

Drilled my holes with no problem and waited 9 days...so far the fogging in the window has not really improved, it's changed ( got better, then worse ) a few times, but overall is not improved.

Next stop is to make the drilled holes larger I think...any other advice?

Thanks!

eqppwqqep · 09-19-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TjbDIY

Drilled my holes with no problem and waited 9 days...so far the fogging in the window has not really improved, it's changed ( got better, then worse ) a few times, but overall is not improved.

Next stop is to make the drilled holes larger I think...any other advice?

Thanks!

I'd wait more. Mine took about 15 days. If you make the holes bigger, you can't make them smaller again.

TjbDIY · 10-02-2009, 10:55 AM

Well, sadly this isn't working for me. I've tried making the holes larger which helped initially. However, the window seems to be in a perpetual state of gradual defogging which is most pronounced in the areas closest to the holes, then next morning back to square one.

Not sure if there's anything else I can try before I bite the expensive new pane bullet - I really hoped this would work.

The holes I have are a little over 1/8 of an inch in the top right / bottom left of the window, not sure if I could make them any bigger. I guess the size of the window could be a problem, it's a big one, I'm guessing 5ft tall and 2ft wide.

Any other ideas are greatly appreciated!

susanhough · 10-16-2009, 11:22 PM

Did you ever find a solution to your fog problem in the windows? I have the same thing and refuse to pay some idiot a ton of money for something simple. I got the drilling 2mm holes part, but what do I use to clean the inside? I hope you found something that works, because these defogging companies are a total rip off!!
Sue

TjbDIY · 10-17-2009, 03:51 PM

susanhough - this didn't really work for me, I suspect that my window is too large for the process - it's about 5ft tall by 2ft wide. It has worked for plenty of people though so I would give it a shot for sure, nothing to lose if you do it carefully.

I currently have 2 holes in my window ( both about 1/8 inch diameter ), one top right, one bottom left. Does anyone think this may work better for such a large window if I open up 2 more holes so I have 1 hole in each of the 4 corners? Maybe open 2 more on each side halfway up also? As it stands right now the window is still well fogged after at least 3 weeks of having the original 2 holes opened.

Any help is very gratefully received. Anyone? Anyone?

ccarlisle · 10-19-2009, 04:55 PM

I got suckered earlier this month by them and have placed a claim with PayPal.

fenestrationman · 10-22-2009, 03:18 PM

I have been following this post for a while now and I am still skeptical as to how this is accomplished. I had replied a while back see below.

I have read a few comments on this subject. Quite interesting. In the comments that state that this system works, did the fogged unit have low e coating? Was it a hard coat or soft coat? Low e is a micro thin metallic material. In the soft coats, the failed unit, due to the presence of moisture begin to oxydize(rust). Just curious as how this is handled.
Thanks for the input.

ccarlisle · 10-31-2009, 03:55 PM

Got my refund from PayPal today

too!

SEP · 11-03-2009, 07:17 PM

One of the administrators of this site must be a very good friend of the Defogkits people. They removed all my comments that were posted to warn others about an obvious scam in which multiple members of this site paid for products but never received. Just trying to protect the community.
It makes you wonder what type of agenda the site administrator has when they pull down a posted warning that was welcomed by the community members.
Just a warning to the rest of you - Don't say anything bad about his good friends at Defogkits.

ccarlisle · 11-04-2009, 08:25 AM

I might have a source. PM me...

SEP · 11-04-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ccarlisle

I might have a source. PM me...

Can't PM.
Please email me: cpswz11 at yahoo.com
Thanks

PTP WX · 11-05-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TjbDIY

I currently have 2 holes in my window ( both about 1/8 inch diameter ), one top right, one bottom left. Does anyone think this may work better for such a large window if I open up 2 more holes so I have 1 hole in each of the 4 corners? Maybe open 2 more on each side halfway up also? As it stands right now the window is still well fogged after at least 3 weeks of having the original 2 holes opened.

Any help is very gratefully received. Anyone? Anyone?

Do you have a work horse shop light? I am thinking that the volume of air inside a window that size may not be venting effectively thus leaving the higher humidity values inside the window. I am thinking out loud here, and don't want to cause any damage, but I am thinking that you point a very bright shop light toward the bottom hole. I wouldn't get the light to close to the glass, just aimed at the side and bottom of the window pane. Heating the inside of the pane would 1) cause the air inside to expand and force more air exchange, especially out of the top hole. 2) the heated air would drop the relative humidity and vaporize the remaining condesation, hopefully venting it out the top hole.

Just some thoughts from a meteorologist and former contractor! Good luck.

matthewb · 11-05-2009, 02:55 AM

Does anyone have any information as to acquiring the one-way valves? I am wanting to do this myself, and I can't find where to get them.

Thanks!

matthewb · 11-09-2009, 12:08 AM

Anyone? Still have had no luck locating and kind of valve.