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Contractor using dads License

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#1 ·
We hired a contractor from a referral. Six months after work was completed, the solid wood door he purchased/installed started to shrink, etc. He apparently installed a door that had a warranty requiring a 10 ft overhang which we did/do not have. He never read the warranty on the door or provided it to us. We even paid for it to be stained/sealed. Now we are having issues with him replacing it. Through this process we looked up his license. His dad is listed on the license as a sole owner. The son is not listed as an employee. (guess if you have employee you have to have workers comp insurance - which they do not). After reviewing CSLB facts it appears they are in violation. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
 
#3 ·
Actually the cause is SUN exposure - may be winter but we have sun and without the overhang - which is part of the required warranty for installing this solid wood door.
Was really looking for responses on person utilizing someone elses license - which I have discovered is illegal, if they are not an employee...thx
 
#4 ·
You did not add your location so not sure how anyone's going to know what your states laws may be.
Most states have a number of employees you have before your required to have work mans comp. it varies by state.
Who's choice was it to go with that color?
Most doors even steel doors have warning on them not to use to dark a color unless under cover.
Post a picture of what the door is doing.
 
#8 ·
I would talk to the father and see if he will remedy the work. Or if he claims that the son is not his employee.

The father may satisfy you. If he doesn't and the son is an employee, you can file a complaint with the CSLB about the "unsatisfactory work/warrantee issues".

If he claims the son is not an employee, you can file the "contracting under someone's license" complaint.

If you are using the CSLB workmans comp info, it does not always get changed when a smaller contractor changes his business. It is quite possible that a workmens comp policy exists today, that was not in effect when the license was renewed.

(For JustinK, In CA mosture content increases in the winter and drops in the summer.)
 
#10 ·
His dad, sole owner which is stated on license details; also claims he has no employees therefore exempt from having workers comp ins. So apparently son is utilizing dads license number.
As far as the door installation - the door warranty (which he received and never shared with us) states that doors must have minimum of 4' overhang and doors with southern exposure (which ours is) must have additional overhang. So clearly the solid wood door should never have been hung. We are hoping that the contractor follows thru to resolve. It was only after this issue that we researched to find that he is using his dads license whereby he is not even an employee.....so clearly they are trying to not pay workers comp, etc..
 
#12 ·
we showed him a picture of the look we liked - he researched and found one - we liked it. He was provided the warranty info and did not share with us - in addition he knew the overhang we had and installed it anyway - appreciate ypur thoughts but you are mistaken.
 
#14 ·
Sorry for the bad info.

I was thinking about Virginia's worker's comp laws - only required if 5 or more employees. Four or less is an automatic waiver.

I checked California's law and see why you are focusing on that insurance since he wasn't supposed to be licensed or working without that insurance.
 
#23 ·
The door has nothing to do with workers comp - nothing! I was only making a side comment that in California if you are the sole owner and do not have employees - you are exempt from workers comp. Clearly the son is involved in the business but not listed as employee to get around not having the workers comp. If son is then operating as Independent Contractor he cannot utilize his dads license - he has to have one.....the end!
 
#26 ·
Agreed, as sole prop. i don't need wc on myself.
Now, I suggest you meet with father and son and get the door resolved. If things get nasty, then you might play the license card however you see fit....

Since this is a do-it-yourself site, we'll gladly walk you through selecting and hanging a door but we can't resolve your legal matters. That's up to you, your attorney and the "contractor"
 
#24 ·
I wish sole owners were exempt in Missouri. I can be forced to pay for WC even when I have no employees, so it covers no one. And some places force you to have it or you can't bid. Just a scam from the state.
 
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