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Old 12-22-2013, 04:10 PM   #16
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ok! Now if I use the shop as part of my carpentry business I wont have a problem.

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Old 12-22-2013, 04:34 PM   #17
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ok! Now if I use the shop as part of my carpentry business I wont have a problem.

Don't bet on it. Only your zoning board can approve use for your area. Don't just take the reply a poster from here that may agree with you as anywhere near what you can or can't do. Go and file a request.
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I highly doubt that you will be allowed to turn a shop into a commercial enterprise in a residential zone. Any waiver that is applied for will have your neighbors weighing in on that, and the noise and dust generated from an actual cabinet shop isn't friendly to residential peace and quiet. Plus, you'd have to have a pretty big shop to do what you're talking about, and just getting a 2000 square foot outbuilding approved will have it's own hurdles.

We (barely) managed to erect a 1800 sf shop for a hobby garage. We still get the occasional visit from the local codes officer to make sure it still remains as a hobby status rather than being an actual business. Plus, we had to put up fencing and some landscaping to make the neighbors happy. And I live somewhere that is pretty happy to have lenient zoning and building requirements.
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:07 PM   #19
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Why Not? shoot if you can do it! Keep your garage door shut and don't let the city inspector in with out a warrent.
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His neighbors will turn him in. Then after a while he gets a nice fine.
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I might have to move to the country, I was going to try to get started in a 12x20 garage? Or try to find a commercial lot in the city.
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Moderation is good.

It used to be that there would be a guy who liked to work on small motors and you could take your mower to him and he could fix it. He might have a couple of mowers for sale as well.

There might be a guy who could do a bit of automotive work as well, maybe change an alternator or some belts or something.

And if a guy had a welder for farm work, etc., you might get him to do some welding for you.

There is a gal up the street from me who makes cakes and baked goods for birthdays and other parties, etc.

The main thing is to keep it under the radar.

I don't think we want to get to the point where everyone who wants to try a business, like building kitchen cabinets, needs to rent a commercial space and get into a 2 year lease with utilities, etc. just to make his first set of cabinets.
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i think noise would be his biggest isssue. i wouldn't want to live next to a place that had saws running all the time.
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Not trying to be a smart ass here, but have you thought this through? 12x20 is not near enough space to build any serious cabinetry. Think about all the shop equipment you'll be putting into the space. In my own shop I have a table saw, radial arm saw, thickness planer, shaper, jointer, bandsaw, drill press, work bench and storage for materials and numerous hand and power tools. On top of that, you need space to temporarily store completed units. 12x20 is about the space needed to just to run a 4x8 piece of plywood through the table saw. Even three times that size would be small for a commercial shop.
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Also, you'll have delivery trucks if you are going to be doing anything serious. Sometimes they will be semis. A one car garage will just about fit basic equipment if you cram it in there. You'll probably save money in the long run if you can find a space in the country where you can set up shop and deduct a percentage for taxes. You'll have to weigh that easier access for customers and separating your business from your personal life, which can't be overestimated.
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I don't think we want to get to the point where everyone who wants to try a business, like building kitchen cabinets, needs to rent a commercial space and get into a 2 year lease with utilities, etc. just to make his first set of cabinets.

So he should wait until when. Maybe until he is making his 10th or 12th set of cabinets?

He said commercial cabinet shop. Not a hobby shop that makes him a few extra bucks like the other examples you gave.

He can try under the radar. And if he gets caught. He won't be able to carry a screw onto his property without a neighbor turning him in. Plus he could receive a cease and desist order, in the middle of making cabinets that have a promised due date.
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"The country" also has zoning regulations. You need someone local who is familiar with local zoning classifications to help you figure out what and where things can and can't be done. I'd start with a real estate attorney to find out about the regulations, and then probably a real estate agent to find the right piece of property that will encompass the multi use needs and still be legal.

If you are considering doing an actual commercial venture here, I'm assuming that you have enough experience producing cabinets so that a bank can look at your business plan to be able to arrange for a small business loan for the property and construction. You might want to contact the SBA for help as well. Don't forget the legal requirements of business licenses and insurance, etc. You wouldn't want to be turned down on that technicality!

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