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Old 02-14-2008, 03:58 PM   #16
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it dot matter how much foam you put in, the heat is still gonna rise to the highest point that's why a attic needs lots of insulation it to keep the heat from escaping. get up on a step ladder and take the temp at the ceiling level and see if its not warmer up there than at mid level. only thing that's going to help your cold feet is air circulation in your house. the fans in your bedrooms isn't going to work in the living room.

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Old 02-14-2008, 04:02 PM   #17
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No cathedral ceilings but they are 10' in the two bedrooms and dining room. I lowered the bath, and kitchen. Living room was already 8'

No vent's in basement also no insulation there either. Only insulated duct's are in crawlspace.

Thermostat stays on 72. My bill is quite cheap @ $137 last month.

Air filter access isn't covered so I may cover it and I do have a laser pointer thermometer thus I can tell where my cold spots are.

The bulk of the cold comes in around my front door but I've weatherproofed it as much as I can by adding new door sweep, new threshold, rubber door bumps or whatever you call them around sides and top, and a new storm door. But I guess it's the price you pay for an huge old oak door with giant beveled glass window.
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:39 PM   #18
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those ceilings aren't that bad,but any and all raw metal ducts either pulling return air or sending out 150F during the heating season should be wrapped to get the truest temps into the space ,and not cooling the return during the heating season..cheap gas bill with that castle your in sounds nice!
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:40 PM   #19
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The temperature has rose about 3-4 degrees sealing cracks with foam and tapping joints in plastic and foam.
Thats good! Can i take some credit here? heh. You are def on the right track. Just keep trying to seal your envelope correctly and fix the things you did incorrectly like i suggested. Hate to say it but all the talk about fans etc are worthless if theres gaps in your envelope. Stop the cold air first!
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I too say fan's don't make that much difference as the bedroom it doesn't make a difference.

I would leave furnace blower on but that would put extra wear on it.
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the heating cycle works off the burner section heating up ON, and cooling down OFF any exposed ducts would cause a cooling of the balance of the heating in the duct and cause drafts and cooling of the space when the stat is not calling for heating.
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I would leave furnace blower on but that would put extra wear on it.
Didnt you mention that you upgraded your furnace? I wouldnt worry about putting wear and tear on it if so. Keeping it on all the time does make an actual difference in evening out the temps of the house. If you have a variable speed one it works even better and costs next to nothing to run all the time. I have mine set up that way and it helps. You can barely tell its on and no big cold air drafts are present.
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I too say fan's don't make that much difference as the bedroom it doesn't make a difference.

I would leave furnace blower on but that would put extra wear on it.

so if you think the ceiling fans wouldnt help why would you wanna leave your blower on, oh wait your thinking to circulate the air in your house.
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Here is a real dumb question from a diy'er. Where are your heat registers in your rooms (low on sidewalls or in ceilings?) and HOW many,,, and where are the cold air registers??How many??

Old story,I had a furnace that seemed anemic. Cold air vent whistled. Took off huge grill to cold return and found mouse hole size hole in wall for it to go thru,,,cut it out further,,,furnace worked much better!!

NOT all furnaces are put in correctly!! ANd cold air returns enough and put where they effect the MOST. If there isnt a cold return in living room,,,can you add one into existing return air trunk?? If it doesnt suck it out of that room it stays put.

I dont think insulating the heat and return runs in basement will solve anthing,,it needs some vents cut in that and heated too so the warmth comes up thru the floors,,,dont need ANY insulation there.

IF possible you might think of auxillary heat in basement,,,like a woodburner?? Or corn and or pellet stove?? It really warms up thru the uninsulated floor spaces. It may cut your heat bill in half to boot!! If so take insulation OUT of floors and use where it is better suited!! You warm up that basement to 80 degrees and your feet will LIKE the warm floors!! I have a wood stove that will burn all day on low setting and EASY do that when its 20 BELOW outside!!

I havent read where the outside walls were insulated,,or did I forget? and who instaalled the windows,,,were they insulated and draft proofed around them properly??? Were they replacement windows from OLD double hungs with window weight pockets??Weights removed and cavity filled??and sealed??
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1)Insulate (rigid on block wall) the basement and heat it.
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2)tear out all floor insulation and run hydronics in joist bays.

3) use carpet runners or even carpet runners with heating pads under them (heated carpets)

And fans always should be used to redistribute/circulate the warm and cold air (mix)

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http://www.floorheatcompany.com/, we had these guys do our basement and it is phenomenal. The floors are so nice and toasty!

Caveat- it is slightly expensive.....
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http://www.floorheatcompany.com/, we had these guys do our basement and it is phenomenal. The floors are so nice and toasty!

Caveat- it is slightly expensive.....
? What

That is for new construction or going over existing floors. That does not help this HO who has hardwood floors.

My solution is to install hydronics under the floor in the joist bays.
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Yes, the OP can insulate until blue in the face, the floor will always be cold unless it's heated.

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