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Old 12-30-2010, 03:56 PM   #1
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Hello,

Weird situation:

We currently are renting out a large warehouse...probably 2000 square feet and the ceiling is at least 70 feet high. We're using the warehouse as a kind of educational/library center.

Anyways, within that warehouse we started to do some construction. We wanted to build some 8x10 rooms adjacent to one another where people can have discussions. We built the rooms, put the drywall up, etc. etc.

One issue: The building is now under new management and they say due to fire regulations, we can't put ceilings on the roof.
So just imagine a number of rooms next to each other...with no ceiling. All the sound escapes from a given room and distracts people in the other rooms.

I was researching large sound foam panels...or something temporary that we can put on top of the rooms to serve as a substitute roof...something that will block out sound from the top. No luck.

Any creative solutions to put something temporary over the rooms to serve as ceilings to either muffle or reduce the sound that escapes the room from the now-open top rooms? As a reminder, each room is about 8 feet long, 10 feet wide.

Thanks.

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Old 12-30-2010, 04:08 PM   #2
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a temporary ceiling is still a ceiling. If it isn't allowed, this isn't going to be acceptable either.


and I hope you meant something like 20,000 or 200,000 sq ft instead of 2000. 2000 sw ft is not a large warehouse, and especially awkward with a 70 foot roof. The roof would be higher than the walls are wide.

what specifically makes this illegal? Did they tell you you would have to have the rooms sprinkled to make ceilings legal?

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Hello,
(decided to take this to the general discussion)
Weird situation:

We currently are renting out a large warehouse...probably 2000 square feet and the ceiling is at least 70 feet high. We're using the warehouse as a kind of educational/library center.

Anyways, within that warehouse we started to do some construction. We wanted to build some 8x10 rooms adjacent to one another where people can have discussions. We built the rooms, put the drywall up, etc. etc.

One issue: The building is now under new management and they say due to fire regulations, we can't put ceilings on the roof.
So just imagine a number of rooms next to each other...with no ceiling. All the sound escapes from a given room and distracts people in the other rooms.

I was researching large sound foam panels...or something temporary that we can put on top of the rooms to serve as a substitute roof...something that will block out sound from the top. No luck.

Any creative solutions to put something temporary over the rooms to serve as ceilings to either muffle or reduce the sound that escapes the room from the now-open top rooms? As a reminder, each room is about 8 feet long, 10 feet wide.

Thanks.

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Hello,

Weird situation:

We currently are renting out a large warehouse...probably 2000 square feet and the ceiling is at least 70 feet high. We're using the warehouse as a kind of educational/library center.

Anyways, within that warehouse we started to do some construction. We wanted to build some 8x10 rooms adjacent to one another where people can have discussions. We built the rooms, put the drywall up, etc. etc.

One issue: The building is now under new management and they say due to fire regulations, we can't put ceilings on the roof.
So just imagine a number of rooms next to each other...with no ceiling. All the sound escapes from a given room and distracts people in the other rooms.

I was researching large sound foam panels...or something temporary that we can put on top of the rooms to serve as a substitute roof...something that will block out sound from the top. No luck.

Any creative solutions to put something temporary over the rooms to serve as ceilings to either muffle or reduce the sound that escapes the room from the now-open top rooms? As a reminder, each room is about 8 feet long, 10 feet wide.

Thanks.
Did you have permits and have this inspected by a building inspector?
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Old 12-30-2010, 04:13 PM   #5
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Hmm...true that temporary ceilings are still considered ceilings nonetheless. I just assumed that it wouldn't be as much of a problem if the ceiling were not permanent.

As per the fire regulations, the previous owner said we can do whatever we'd like.

The problem now remains with the issue of the fire sprinklers. The current fire sprinklers are located at the ceiling of the 70' high warehouse. We don't have the budget to install new sprinklers within each room.

Guess we're stuck?
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Guess we're stuck?
most likely.

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The current fire sprinklers are located at the ceiling of the 70' high warehouse.
they start at the ground level though. A main can be tapped and a branch run for the new rooms.

Have you spoken to a sprinkler contractor to get a rough estimate of a price at least? Without doing that, pretty hard to determine you don't have the money available for that.
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Haven't spoken to a sprinkler contractor...only a general contractor.


Thanks all for your help.
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We built the rooms, put the drywall up, etc. etc.
Ayuh,... Simply hanging fabrics on the walls will cut the sound immensely...

Carpet remenants comes to mind...
Carpet hung with folds in it, vs. flat to the wall is even Better...
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The building is now under new management and they say due to fire regulations, we can't put ceilings on the roof.
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As per the fire regulations, the previous owner said we can do whatever we'd like.
I am wondering if you have spoken the the authority with jurisdiction. I would not rely on management or owner to know code. By the way, we have a warehouse. In the warehouse are rooms with ceilings. Perhaps it is a local thing.
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One question came to mind really quick: Who told you that you could not put ceilings on these new rooms? Then I see where you have a fire sprinkler system. There's a good reason, but not necessarily what's stopping you. As suggested, GET someone from the local jurisdiction to come out and physically inspect what you are doing, or want to do. Then have them tell you what can or cannot be done. The sprinkler system will become an issue. As suggested, contact a fire sprinkler contractor, have them come out to see how they can feed these rooms with sprinklers to meet the sprinkler codes, with the ceilings. It can be done, I used to do these--before retirement. And - - I also think you have the square footage wrong for the building, or are you just renting the 2000 sq. feet? Whole new ball game if this is so.
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Did you have permits and have this inspected by a building inspector?
You missed my question. Can you answer this?

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Hmm...true that temporary ceilings are still considered ceilings nonetheless. I just assumed that it wouldn't be as much of a problem if the ceiling were not permanent.

As per the fire regulations, the previous owner said we can do whatever we'd like.
Why would you believe them and not ask the building inspector?

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The problem now remains with the issue of the fire sprinklers. The current fire sprinklers are located at the ceiling of the 70' high warehouse. We don't have the budget to install new sprinklers within each room.

Guess we're stuck?
You section off a warehouse into rooms, they have to have sprinklers in the ceiling in case there is a fire. It is a fire code. You would know this iif you talk to your building inspector.There are many other codes you have to follow when ding this.

You can't just build rooms in a warehouse and not expect to get permits, inspections and follow building codes.

Will you contact the building department and do this, or will you avoid this question again since you already built and sheetrocked the walls?
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I am wondering if you have spoken the the authority with jurisdiction.
Let's see if he answers you.
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As suggested, GET someone from the local jurisdiction to come out and physically inspect what you are doing, or want to do. Then have them tell you what can or cannot be done.

That is doing the right thing. Let's see if he answers you also. People come here all the time asking for free advice and don't want to do the right thing by not getting proper permits and inspections. When asked this, they avoid the question and sometimes come back saying they will do that and you will never hear from them again, or they just don't come back.

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