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Old 02-04-2010, 07:16 PM   #16
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funny, i knew this had the potential for ruffling feathers, but i am not advocating anybody doing anything. this is a do it yourself site. so with a permit or not, a do it yourselfer is not a trained contractor in the first place. i am advocating hiring a contractor to come in and consult. they do this all the time, it gets them work sometime not. if a do it yourselfer is wondering about removing a wall and is not sure if it is load bearing , i feel it is a good idea to have a handle on what may be involved. the OP stated nothing about ripping anything out but only adding something in. in commercial work that is an alteration that may impede egress accessibility etc. but in a residence things are more leeway. locally the removal of structure must have an architect/engineers seal on a set of drawings which costs lots of money and those drawings are submitted for the building permit. the way i see what the OP is doing is adding a partition, simple made hard through the system.

as for my situation, it's 88 years old and i was using it as an anecdote. i know the codes, i deal with them daily and i am a do it yourself kind of person. as for "forgiveness as worst piece of advice...." really? it's illegal to replace a toilet without a building permit.....it's illegal to replace an electrical outlet without a permit it's illegal to replace a water heater without a permit, it's illegal to replace a 1" piece of copper pipe without a permit. DIYers do that all the time

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Old 02-04-2010, 08:20 PM   #17
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funny, i knew this had the potential for ruffling feathers, but i am not advocating anybody doing anything. this is a do it yourself site. so with a permit or not, a do it yourselfer is not a trained contractor in the first place. i am advocating hiring a contractor to come in and consult. they do this all the time, it gets them work sometime not. if a do it yourselfer is wondering about removing a wall and is not sure if it is load bearing , i feel it is a good idea to have a handle on what may be involved. the OP stated nothing about ripping anything out but only adding something in. in commercial work that is an alteration that may impede egress accessibility etc. but in a residence things are more leeway. locally the removal of structure must have an architect/engineers seal on a set of drawings which costs lots of money and those drawings are submitted for the building permit. the way i see what the OP is doing is adding a partition, simple made hard through the system.

as for my situation, it's 88 years old and i was using it as an anecdote. i know the codes, i deal with them daily and i am a do it yourself kind of person. as for "forgiveness as worst piece of advice...." really? it's illegal to replace a toilet without a building permit.....it's illegal to replace an electrical outlet without a permit it's illegal to replace a water heater without a permit, it's illegal to replace a 1" piece of copper pipe without a permit. DIYers do that all the time
When I bought this house, the water pressure was 120 psi when the water heater ran it went above 150psi and the Pressure reliefe valve leaked water because of it anytime the water heater ran... I read you needed a permit to put a pressure reducer on and an expansion tank... went to the permit place basically got laughed at when I said I wanted to apply for a permit for that... called a plumber asked if I needed a permit they said they never heard of that around here... only for new construction... so I gave in and just put the valve in myself with the tank... not like its hard to sweat in some copper tube to connect a pressure reducing valve and put a T in for an expansion tank... it took more time getting the run around on why I did or didnt need a permit then it did to put the 20 minutes of work in to do the job... kind of bugs me... they need to make the process easier and explain more clearly when you need one
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:21 AM   #18
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Well after just hearing a news story on tv, not needing a permit just sounded wonderful... just saw in California a guy was just fined because he didnt get a building permit for placing a chair on his front porch.... seriously, wtf?! He said the permit cost more then the chair *LOL*
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Old 03-03-2010, 03:05 PM   #19
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I now live in a community that requires almost no permits. Initially I thought this was a great situation, because getting permits for piddly little work always seemed excessive, intrusive and useless (still does). However, I'm also discovering the downside to almost non-existent permits/inspections. Some serious irregularities I've uncovered from the "handy" work of the prior owner could have been avoided with a reasonable inspection regimine.

Bottom line: There're two extremes: CA's 100% permit requirements on the left, and no requirements on the right. The right point, in my opinion, is in the middle-right.
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if they say no permit required and yoo're closing things that cant be seen, like a partition take lots of pics
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I now live in a community that requires almost no permits. Initially I thought this was a great situation, because getting permits for piddly little work always seemed excessive, intrusive and useless (still does). However, I'm also discovering the downside to almost non-existent permits/inspections. Some serious irregularities I've uncovered from the "handy" work of the prior owner could have been avoided with a reasonable inspection regimine.

Bottom line: There're two extremes: CA's 100% permit requirements on the left, and no requirements on the right. The right point, in my opinion, is in the middle-right.

Yeah, CA seems loopy with their requirements anymore... I can see a permit for adding on to a house, changing structraul stuff, gas lines, electrical work when its major... stuff like that... but a permit to put a chair in your yard that isn't even physically attached to anything is crazy

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