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Old 05-14-2010, 05:00 PM   #31
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your wife might enjoy operating it if she's available to help, or maybe a local teenager that wants to earn a few bucks.
Don't. You end up on the evening news.

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Don't. You end up on the evening news.
LOL The one I rented was as easy to operate as a lawn mower. A lot simpler than a car - of course we know how teenagers and women do with those......Did I say that out loud
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LOL The one I rented was as easy to operate as a lawn mower. A lot simpler than a car - of course we know how teenagers and women do with those......Did I say that out loud
If it runs like a Deere, watch out
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There were few members mention very clear about not let the concrete truck drive on the 4 inch driveway it will get busted pretty quick let me fill you in quick facts I know you will say OMG .,,

Loaded 10 or 11 yd front discharge truck will weight in little shy over 80,000 Lbs { there are few case it will go much as 90,000 and some more }

once it empty out the weight will be about 32,000 or so Lbs depending if front or rear dischage unit { rear discharge are little lighter }

And I do own a 12 tonne crane truck and that weight in 47,000 lbs and when I check the site before I drive my crane truck I try to advoid the driveway much as I can unless the owner will plan to replace it then let it done.

I allready busted couple driveway from this and yeah for ruts I have left few pretty deep one as well plus pad marking from outriggers the deepest rut I left was about 9 inch deep or so.

now for the rest of readers there are few tips to make it easier for to haul the cement is get power buggy or skidsteer loader { even you can ask one of your freind to use it if they willing to do that and make sure you clean the bucket when you get done they are pain in arse to get it off once it dry out}

the other thing that many cement truck driver and crane driver including myself we will make a quick site check to veirfy the safety to drive the truck on the site.

there are few tips to give the drivers a warning if they will run the cement trucks or crane truck as well if need to { it will happend from time to time } we will not get too close to the edge of the earth wall { exvacted ground } otherwise the ground will shift from the weight of truck.

also if you have holding tank or septic tank please .,, please make sure you inform us about that we will advoid it much as we can { I allready did crack one } ditto with underground fuel tanks and any buried uilites lines.

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there are few tips to give the drivers a warning if they will run the cement trucks or crane truck as well if need to { it will happend from time to time } we will not get too close to the edge of the earth wall { exvacted ground } otherwise the ground will shift from the weight of truck.

also if you have holding tank or septic tank please .,, please make sure you inform us about that we will advoid it much as we can { I allready did crack one } ditto with underground fuel tanks and any buried uilites lines.

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Good call Marc... Maintaining the 1 to 1 rule ground rule in most parts around here is not only a good idea, but it's now the law. 1 foot back for every 1 foot of drop

I have operated 28meter up 65meter concrete boom pumps with ground pressures up to 70 tons when flat sticked 180'ft out, needless to say, any time you are not on engineered soil you are at risk, Farm work is scary stuff , you just never know what is buried beneath your set up. Having Ran a few front discharge and rear discharge 3-4 axle mixers, they are heavy and on a warm day will kill your 4" ashphalt

Maintain the 17'ft power line rule as well, LOOK UP! assume everthing is HOT!

Here's the way I'd do it !....lol


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Skid steer, cheaper in the long run.
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Anybody make a concrete conveyor belt, or any conveyor that has a "U" cross section, that hugs the ground? It'll take a lot less hp than having the pipe arc through the air.

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Some delivery trucks in our area had belts, but the range was limited and not proctical for most jobs since buggies and pumps were more usable. If you want to run a belt a long distance the set-up cost could be a problem (support and time).
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. Having Ran a few front discharge and rear discharge 3-4 axle mixers, they are heavy and on a warm day will kill your 4" ashphalt

Maintain the 17'ft power line rule as well, LOOK UP! assume everthing is HOT!

Here's the way I'd do it !....lol

That is true with warm day the last time I did left a rut in ashphalt it was good 6 inch thick it did left a very nice imprint escpeally if it was a new one that is the worst but don't go there with privte owned parking lot they are worst they are about 3 to 5 inches thick and I did manged to make a mess on one spot { yeah we have couple hevey metro bus do the same thing as well }

Now the other thing with overhead lines we have to watch all the time it don't take much to ruin your day very fast with it.

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Anybody make a concrete conveyor belt, or any conveyor that has a "U" cross section, that hugs the ground? It'll take a lot less hp than having the pipe arc through the air.
The closest thing to what your talking about, that I know of, would be a Putzmiester Telebelt 105'ft and 130'ft... as far as engine HP needed to push mud through a boom system, without any other addition line added off the boom conveying it really ain't all that much different in respect to HP needed, generally 1100-1400 engine RPM will give you lots of power for pumping vertical up to 200 ft. High rise pumping and multi stage pumping takes huge amounts of HP to push the mud through system line into a tower placing boom because of resistance. The engine PTO runs a main variable displacement hydraulic pump for the pump kit and auxiliary fixed displacement pumps for the boom functions, same as the Telebelt, so surprisingly enough it doesn't take a lot of engine Horse power to pump concrete, depending on the mix and slump but generally the engine never breaks a sweat. Telebelts are nice when they can be utilized but they are limited as they cannot articulate.


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The Telebelts are slowing taking place of the pumps here. They seem far more efficient in principle, don't need a prime, can place near any slump, stone size, or steel fibermesh, require less costly maintanence, can place much faster, etc...... Most of the bigger foundation contractors here have gone to the belts as it allows them to place all of their washed stone very efficiently as well.

The downside, as mentioned, is they aren't as flexible when it comes to working around objects.
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I agree, a pump is just no match for a Telebelt, they can move the mud a whole quicker than a pump. A pump at best will move theoretically160- 220 meters per hour and that is having two trucks backed up to the pump and a couple of batch plants just rockin and rolling to supply it, but again that's theoretically speaking, as a state of the art plant can generally only supply 100 meters an hour, with single and split batch systems, but that's all pumps can do is concrete, so they have their limitations as well.

My buddy and his Telebelt go crazy in the peak season big demand here too, he will hammer off stone in the morning then hammer off 3-4 afternoon walls, it's nothing for a Telebelt to sling a few hundred ton of stone in the morning then 500 meters of concrete in a 10-15 hour day. I have found that using the telebelt on walls seems to honeycomb a lot with low cement content wall mixes, but for low slump and harsh mixes like already mentioned you cannot beat a telebelt it will move everything you got fast.

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Interesting name.

Putzfrau means "cleaning lady" in German but putzmeister didn't translate with my online translation site.

But, some Germans I was just talking to on Skype said it might mean someone who puts stucco or some similar material on buildings. In this context it sort of makes sense.
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Interesting name.

Putzfrau means "cleaning lady" in German but putzmeister didn't translate with my online translation site.

But, some Germans I was just talking to on Skype said it might mean someone who puts stucco or some similar material on buildings. In this context it sort of makes sense.

From what I've been told, it translates to "plaster master" or something similar. I assume the company started out making plaster pumps.
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I don't know how well this would work, but could you just mix the cement on site, in the form? Drop the dry cement in the form, add the water from the garden hose, mix as it's filling up. Guess it would be much harder to measure that way though so you have the right mixture.

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