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J S Machine 05-13-2010 09:27 AM

Can a concrete truck get into my back yard?
 
UPDATE ON PAGE 4. Finished pics of slab!


I just posted this same thread, and somebody replied. When I went to check the reply the thread had disapeared..I have no idea what happened.

This is what the original thread said:

I have contacted both concrete companies in my area about this issue, and neither one of them seem to be worried about getting back with me. I have had calls in for 2 weeks now to two different salesmen that work for each company and they won't return my calls. I talked to both of them initially, and now they are blowing me off. I think they may sense a problem with my situation and really would rather not deal with the job.

My issue is that I have a form that I need to pour in my backyard for a shop I'm going to build. The form is 12x16 and will require 5 yards of concrete. I have a regular concrete driveway and I'm sure it's the avg. 4" thick or so. I also have a wooden privacy fence with a gate that is 8' wide with both doors open.

I have had people tell me that a truck with 5 yards of concrete will destroy my driveway, some have said it won't. Others have said that the only thing I should be concerened about is the edge of the driveway where it meets the backyard - a possible fail point. I have also had a few people tell me that a truck won't make it through my 8' wide gate opening. I'd be willing to take the fence down, but I'm not going through the trouble if the truck could possibly destroy the driveway.

One of the salesmen suggested a concrete buggy, which I had never heard of. Maybe leave the truck on the road and go back and fourth between there and the form. I really don't want to have to put any more money into this slab, but if I have to I will. What does it cost to rent one of these things?

Here is an illustration of my yard with some measurements -

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ocad/5-13a.jpg

And here is an illustration of my idea. I feel like if the truck can back up the driveway and through the gate, the shute will reach around the tree and reach the form-

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ocad/5-13b.jpg

Please let me know what you think about this situation and advise the best way for me to do it. Thanks

Willie T 05-13-2010 09:33 AM

I can almost guarantee you your drive is not strong enough at that rear section to stand 20 + tons of truck dropping off it.

Have you priced a concrete pump? Many companies will send both the truck and their own pumper.

Of course the pumper usually needs someplace to clean out the hoses.

J S Machine 05-13-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie T (Post 441317)
I can almost guarantee you your drive is not strong enough at that rear section to stand 20 + tons of truck dropping off it.

Have you priced a concrete pump? Many companies will send both the truck and their own pumper.

Of course the pumper usually needs someplace to clean out the hoses.

I hadn't priced a pump truck, but I figured it would be more than I want to spend. I didn't know that most companies have their own and would send it too. I don't have any idea what the magnitude is of the hose cleaning, but I wouldn't mind them doing it in the back yard. I could easily clean that up.

I figured maybe I could build the edge of the driveway up well, but like you say, it would peobably be best to explore other alternatives.

I'm not complaining, but this slab project has turned into a real pain. You probably saw my other threads. I replaced the the topsoil in the middle with gravel and compacted it, and lowered the step down like I was advised to do. Everything is good to go and now I can't seem to get any concrete back there without jumping through hoops lol.

The reason I keep mentioning cost is because I am in way deeper than I thought I'd be. I initially planned to spend about $200-300 on the slab, and I have more than that in it already without concrete! That will be another $500 or so... And if I have to rent a buggy or a pump truck...

Scuba_Dave 05-13-2010 09:44 AM

Pump truck for my foundation pour was an extra $800 here
And they drove over dirt to make the pour
Replacing your driveway will cost more

One reason I do all pavers out back

You had 2 threads on the same topic
Something must have gone wrong when I merged them...sorry

BobCaygeon 05-13-2010 09:55 AM

Perfect little line job......... but remember when you order a pump you may need 1/2 meter of grout, depending on the operator, but 25 ft up to about 50-60'ft of steel line with only one or 2 rubber will prime out fine with slick pack, so grout may not be needed, buy you will need to order 1/2 to 1 full meter to prime the pump, then you need a spot for the pump to wash out which will leave you about a 1/2 meter pile to deal with.

kwikfishron 05-13-2010 11:20 AM

Looks like a pretty small slab.

What ever happened to a wheelbarrow ?

J S Machine 05-13-2010 11:24 AM

Well, a wheelbarrow isn't out of the question, but for 5 yards of concrete I think it would be pretty rough. And, would a concrete truck be willing to sit there while I go back and fourth from the truck to the form with a wheelbarrow?

kwikfishron 05-13-2010 11:31 AM

I was thinking more like 3 wheelbarrows.

Out here you can get a tow behind line pump with operator for $250-300 for something that small.

J S Machine 05-13-2010 11:40 AM

Just checked. A local line pump co wants $425 minimum.http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...GIFs/willy.gif

3 wheelbarrows is out of the question. I might be able to come up with two, but there will only be 1 person helping me, maybe 2 if I'm lucky.

J S Machine 05-13-2010 11:46 AM

Ok. Looks like a "Georgia buggy" will be what I need. local rental place says $90 a day. That isn't bad. It's more than I wanted to spend but I guess that will have to do.

joed 05-13-2010 11:54 AM

Rent a power wheel barrow. They also make ride on versions.


http://www.winnrentals.com/newequip.htm


http://www.winnrentals.com/images/Wa...l%20Barrow.JPG

kwikfishron 05-13-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by J S Machine (Post 441376)
Ok. Looks like a "Georgia buggy" will be what I need. local rental place says $90 a day. That isn't bad. It's more than I wanted to spend but I guess that will have to do.

Looks like $90 well spent.

The truck will sit there as long as you want. They give you like 40 min. then just charge truck time after that.

Thatís probably a question you should ask. How much time do I get before the price goes up?

J S Machine 05-13-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joed (Post 441384)

That's what a "georgia buggy" is apparently. Thanks for the suggestion!

47_47 05-13-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by J S Machine (Post 441315)
My issue is that I have a form that I need to pour in my backyard for a shop I'm going to build. The form is 12x16 and will require 5 yards of concrete.

Just out of curiosity, do you really need the slab 8" thick?

J S Machine 05-13-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 47_47 (Post 441429)
Just out of curiosity, do you really need the slab 8" thick?

The slab surface is 4" and it has 12"x12" footings. There is a little fall in the center of the slab area and also a small step out front, so a little extra is figured in.


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