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Old 08-25-2010, 08:24 PM   #46
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We must have had a locksmith join the group, a lot of old posts coming back from the dead today!!

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Old 08-25-2010, 08:29 PM   #47
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I'll respond to this old thread. Locally, Time Warner Cable has taken over an old established alarm company. They have taken to running dramatic TV commercials where young women are home alone or home alone with young children when a home invader boldly crashes throung a door.

I think an alarm system is a good thing second to secure doors and windows. The alarm has the potential to alert your neighbors and you. In high crime areas, the houses have bars on the doors and windows, not a bad idea.

Unless they offer a team of commandos 1-3 minutes away from your home I think the monitoring service is a waste on money in the scenarios that Time Warner portrays. An indruder intent on doing harm will be in and out by the time they make their phone call to your home to ask if everything is all right.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:46 AM   #48
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but I'm pretty sure some other states have more of a 'if they're on your property, that's that' attitude.
I think Utah is one of them states...Most are like your state, ya need to have a very good reason.

Anyway, burglary is a crime of opportunity. There are many things you can do. Close windows, lock your doors (especially when you are home). If you are not home, and they want in, most likely they will get in.

The way I figure it, I would rather them brake in when I am gone. Insurance will/might cover my stuff. I worry about someone breaking in when I am home, since I have dogs, cats, and more importantly, a wife and kids to worry about.

I am surprised a Golden scarred off the guy. I know Goldens and Labs. Lots of noise...

I asked a local cop one day: he said the biggest deterrent was auto lights and a big dog (a 100 lbs Golden is a big dog).

Search the news for the guy who has an iPhone app. built in to his security system...

Good luck. I am sure it was/is scary.
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:00 AM   #49
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When I moved in this summer, I made sure I replaced all the locks with high quality ones, I still need to get more lighting outside. Also, I made it a point to meet the state K-9 unit across the road. Really nice people, too. We're hoping next summer to get a boxer, as the wife's dad may be retiring and will be able to swing by some afternoons to give it some attention while we're at work.
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a note stuck to the door saying, Billybob, Elmer and me have gone to the ammo store for spare shotgun cartridges, back in 10 minutes.
That assumes your intruder can read.

A guy in my former neighborhood (suburban Boston) had his street-parked car burglarized and stereo stolen three times. After that, he didn't bother replacing the stereo and left a sign in the driver's side window that said, 'Don't bother -- this car has no stereo or anything valuable in it', which was true. Someone broke in anyway.
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Alarm companies make their money from suckers who pay a monthly monitoring fee.

Yes the police will attend to alarm calls, but their attendance will most often result in an invoice from the police department for services. The alarm companies usually fail to disclose this information.

Here's another scenario that I know is happening...

A burglar find his way easily into a garage roller door, closing it behind him. The alarm sounds and police attend. The burglar is hiding inside the garage. By law the police are not allowed to enter a premise without a warrant or probable cause. They are not allowed to enter a property without prior permission.

The police attend and write up a false alarm notice. They invoice the homeowner for their attendance. The burglar waits till they leave, and gets into the house easily through the usually unlocked garage entry door.

The burglar proceeds to ransack your house. There are no signs of forced entry, your insurance refuses to honor a claim because the police filed a false alarm report, you are already out of pocket for the monitoring charges, you owe the local police and your insurance will not pay out on the claim. The only winner is the burglar who gets away with your stuff.

Still want am alarm?

Alarm companies use underhanded techniques to con people into alarms, like "100% of burglars in prison stated any loud noise would have stopped them"
I don't know why, but after 3 years the board is notifying me that this thread is getting more responses...

That said, I disagree that a homeowner's insurance company can refuse a claim because the police were there, found nothing, and filed a false alarm report.
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I read through this (really old) thread and was surprised to see that no one offered a simple inexpensive deterrent that we all have in our homes.....

It's been stated numerous time in this post that burglary is a crime of opportunity. We make it easy by clearly indicating to the neighborhood that we are not home.

And why to we keep doing that....??

Because we are trained practically from birth to "conserve", to not waste energy and thus money. It's drilled into us EVERYDAY by parents, extended family, co-workers, etc. So then, what do we do when we leave the house every day? We turn everything OFF or down. The lights, the AC/Heating, etc. Anything the uses electricity and anything that remotely could suggest that perhaps someone is actually in the house.

Instead of turning everything off, leave a light or two on and MOST IMPORTANTLY, leave the TV on with the volume slightly elevated so as to be heard from outside. Open the shades/blinds/window coverings just barely enough to see from the outside that the TV is on but not enough to enable someone to see details within the line of sight.

If you think about it, with the above lifetime programming, if the TV is on, then it usually means someone is there laying on the couch or in bed, or maybe standing in the kitchen or sitting in a chair out of sight. A running, visible and audible television is probably one the biggest deterrents to anyone prowling around outside the house.

Think about it!! It holds the same for the poor dumb schmuck standing outside contemplating entering your home because they too have had that same lifetime's worth of programming.

Think about it!! It's almost wholly irresistible to NOT believe that SOMEONE is in there watching that TV simply when we can see it when looking in the window. We can hear it. No one in their right mind leaves the house empty with the TV on!! Soooo......someone MUST BE THERE!!!. They just GOTTA BE because we can see the TV's on. We can't help it. We're all programmed to think that!

Simple, cheap, and 99.999% of us have one!
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I read through this (really old) thread and was surprised to see that no one offered a simple inexpensive deterrent that we all have in our homes.....

It's been stated numerous time in this post that burglary is a crime of opportunity. We make it easy by clearly indicating to the neighborhood that we are not home.

Yea this is an old post, but still an interesting topic. Lighting around the exterior of the house plus dead bolts on the doors are good for even everyday security whether you're home or not. Whenever I go out of town, we program our lights and TVs to go on and off at regular intervals so it looks like someone is home.

Nowadays with social media (facebook, twitter, etc) coming into play, don't broadcast that you'll be away. It may not be someone you know directly, but often burglaries can be linked back to the fact that someone knew you weren't going to be home. Try to keep it on a "need to know" basis and wait until you get back to tell people about your trip.

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