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Old 09-14-2007, 07:47 AM   #31
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Red neck burglar bars : size 15 or bigger muddy work boots, and 5 gal bucket of dog chow with KILLER printer on bucket, sitting by the front door.


Says it all. You will not look like a victim waiting to happen.
Classic! That's so much better than a 'protected by smith / wesson' tag! Damn that's good!

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holy hell Joey! where do you live? Bahgdad? lol
because 2 people use hard drugs near me? Anywhere in this country. I'm younger so maybe I see the signs more, or maybe it's being outside working 24/7 on my house that I just overhear stuff. But people do hard drugs in all areas, all across the country, it's just nobody talks about it (nobody talks about it outside of the slums/cities, not nearly as much anyways. I guess my point is if you think your neighborhood is even close to drug free you're almost certainly wrong)

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Old 11-09-2007, 02:14 PM   #32
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SPAMMER!!

haha forgot about this thread,
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Red neck burglar bars : size 15 or bigger muddy work boots, and 5 gal bucket of dog chow with KILLER printer on bucket, sitting by the front door.


Says it all. You will not look like a victim waiting to happen.
on that note, one of the easier entry points to my house conveniently has my olympic bar loaded with my deadlift weight (quite a bit), figured that's gotta be up there with size 15 boots!! Perhaps gun company stickers too lol
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:53 AM   #33
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If anyone thinks that whoever breaks into a home is just a burglar looking to walk out with cash, jewelry and a flat-screen TV, I beg you to please rethink that strategy. The news is chock full of victims of violent crimes where robbery was never, ever the motive or a result. Sorry to say this, especially on Sunday, but the world we live in is loaded with two-legged trash looking to hurt, maim, brutalize and possibly kill good people for kicks and self-gratification.

Do whatever you feel is apropriate under the law to protect yourself and your loved ones from harm intended by others. Your conscience means you get to choose. As with many of the choices and decisions we make over our lifetime, some will have proven themselves to have been clearly much better than others.

The mental exercise of If only... is usually of little comfort after-the-fact and so it might be more prudent for good and decent people everywhere to worry about lawyers, juries, lawsuits, signs and HOA's afterwards. There are enough traumatized, injured, emotionally-scarred, disabled and dead good people who didn't think for one second that they'd ever become a victim of a violent crime. And "for what?" those who survive will ask.

Just my opinion for whatever that is worth.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:17 AM   #34
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simple. get a security system with motion sensors. . . it doesnt even need to be monitored. The alarm alone will be enough to scare them away.

for those that stay and are not deterred by the alarm, at least in my home, they'll either get a deer slug to the abdomen, a 30-30 to the chest, or a 22mag to the face. . . if my wife and I are at home and someone is going to come into the house, they want more than jewlery and a beer
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:54 AM   #35
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simple. get a security system with motion sensors. . . it doesnt even need to be monitored. The alarm alone will be enough to scare them away.
Bingo. Got the same recommendation from my office (we're consultants - a few do security for large businesses and incredibly high end residential). So aside from replacing all locks when I closed on my house (same day), adding some motion sensor floods in the back yard, etc, I'll be adding an audible alarm.

Of course, I also live in an amazingly safe area of NJ, which rarely (and I do mean rarely) has crime of any kind. However, I know that by putting this stuff in, I'm less likely to be effected. Add to that me and my gf's 60lb pit (she's a big wuss to me and the gf.... but not to anyone else ), and we're pretty damn safe.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:01 AM   #36
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Many break-ins, especially drug related, are committed by either someone who knows you, or someone who is very familiar with your habits. A neighbor's kid, or one of their friends, or one of your kid's friends. Very few break ins are absolutely random. Not even a crackhead wants to pick a home they don't know anything about.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:13 AM   #37
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Bingo. Got the same recommendation from my office (we're consultants - a few do security for large businesses and incredibly high end residential). So aside from replacing all locks when I closed on my house (same day), adding some motion sensor floods in the back yard, etc, I'll be adding an audible alarm.

Of course, I also live in an amazingly safe area of NJ, which rarely (and I do mean rarely) has crime of any kind. However, I know that by putting this stuff in, I'm less likely to be effected. Add to that me and my gf's 60lb pit (she's a big wuss to me and the gf.... but not to anyone else ), and we're pretty damn safe.
yep. we had ours monitored and it was pretty much worthless. They call the house TWICE... then if they get no response after 30 mins, they call your 2nd contact (cell) and if no response after 15min, they call your THIRD contact before they call the police.

When ours went off while on vacation, we didnt know until my mother in law (who was the third contact) let us know she was called. We called the company for more info and they couldnt tell us ANYTHING like if the system was still armed, what zone was triggered (make a differnce to me if its sliding door or front door), . . they couldnt evne tell me if the police had been dispatched; all they could say was that they had been called. that's worthless to me. . .
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Many "alarm companies" install a cheap alarm with underpaid techs, and their profit is in the monthly monitoring fee. As you say, the monitoring is useless. The whole point of the business is like many others - any business that accumuliates RMC's, or, recurring monthly charges, will be profitable and that is what every alarm company is after - profit, not actual security.

Notice their commercials show very hi-tech, military-looking "command centers" with supposedly armed uniformed guards and supervisors with distressed/concerned looks on their faces - the ACTUAL monitoring "center" is a simple PC and a phone, probably in the back office of your local home heating oil dealer, and the "staff" is a GED buffoon with a short, typed-up list of "instructions" on what to do when an alarm call comes in.

The police are innundated with a birrage of false alarms, and now they have the automatic on-star calls to contend with as well. Believe me - they're never taken seriously. The systems are too unreliable to be taken seriously. An automatic alarm call is at the bottom of the priority list.
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Many "alarm companies" install a cheap alarm with underpaid techs, and their profit is in the monthly monitoring fee. As you say, the monitoring is useless. The whole point of the business is like many others - any business that accumuliates RMC's, or, recurring monthly charges, will be profitable and that is what every alarm company is after - profit, not actual security.

Notice their commercials show very hi-tech, military-looking "command centers" with supposedly armed uniformed guards and supervisors with distressed/concerned looks on their faces - the ACTUAL monitoring "center" is a simple PC and a phone, probably in the back office of your local home heating oil dealer, and the "staff" is a GED buffoon with a short, typed-up list of "instructions" on what to do when an alarm call comes in.

The police are innundated with a birrage of false alarms, and now they have the automatic on-star calls to contend with as well. Believe me - they're never taken seriously. The systems are too unreliable to be taken seriously. An automatic alarm call is at the bottom of the priority list.
hehe command centers that look like CTU HQ from 24. . .

The only reason we had it monitored was for the fire alarm... they dont wait 60mins before calling the fire dept
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The only reason we had it monitored was for the fire alarm... they dont wait 60mins before calling the fire dept

Fire house is across the street, neighbor is former EMS (and good friends with the current chief), and my smoke alarms are loud as hell - I lucked out lol
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Be careful depending on pets as intrusion protection. In many cases domestic animals are hurt or worse during the intrusion. Additionally fire in the home takes approximately 40,000 family pets annually.

IMO pets should be considered as part of the family when protecting your home. Guard dogs are professionally trained and require lifestyle modifications for the host family.

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Alarms have never been or ever could be security protection products. They are marketed as security systems but they do not protect you.

Alarms do exactly what the name says. They "Alarm" or inform that a condition is occurring. That is all. They cannot and will not protect you or your property.

If you are looking to prevent a break in, install better quality locks and door frame reinforcement.

Alarm companies make their money from suckers who pay a monthly monitoring fee.

Yes the police will attend to alarm calls, but their attendance will most often result in an invoice from the police department for services. The alarm companies usually fail to disclose this information.

Here's another scenario that I know is happening...

A burglar find his way easily into a garage roller door, closing it behind him. The alarm sounds and police attend. The burglar is hiding inside the garage. By law the police are not allowed to enter a premise without a warrant or probable cause. They are not allowed to enter a property without prior permission.

The police attend and write up a false alarm notice. They invoice the homeowner for their attendance. The burglar waits till they leave, and gets into the house easily through the usually unlocked garage entry door.

The burglar proceeds to ransack your house. There are no signs of forced entry, your insurance refuses to honor a claim because the police filed a false alarm report, you are already out of pocket for the monitoring charges, you owe the local police and your insurance will not pay out on the claim. The only winner is the burglar who gets away with your stuff.

Still want am alarm?

Alarm companies use underhanded techniques to con people into alarms, like "100% of burglars in prison stated any loud noise would have stopped them"
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a pair of size 16 gum boots (wellingtons) next to the front door, with a note stuck to the door saying, Billybob, Elmer and me have gone to the ammo store for spare shotgun cartridges, back in 10 minutes.
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We have a female Golden, and she can make a growl and bark, that makes you think twice about entering. We had one of those fly by night APX sales people come knocking, and the wife said that he turned tail and walked away when he heard the dog raising hell inside.

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