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Old 11-20-2010, 03:56 PM   #16
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That is also a little deeper than I would make if I were doing it on both sides of the vertical board. Still, nice job. When you do this outside, don't forget the polyeurethane glue. It will fill the voids, repel moisture, and add strength.

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that is also a little deeper than i would make if i were doing it on both sides of the vertical board. Still, nice job. When you do this outside, don't forget the polyeurethane glue. It will fill the voids, repel moisture, and add strength.
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In the above pic, are you showing the additional vertical 2 X4 that I would then nail down into? i am using 3" molding on the inside of the porch, so adding another 2X4 would expose wood, since I already have 2 2X4s (if that makes sense). i have a lot of pics here: Enclosing Porch . thanks for your help!
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started to do this for real



my framing is a bit off here. the horizontal piece fits well, but it doesn't go in absolutely square.



i am concerned that i am not going to keep everything straight when I move to the next cut. should i just use a square to transfer the line from the first horizontal piece to the next vertical 2 X 4 that I have to cut?

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Square works well to transfer a mark to the opposite side of the vertical member. I would probably be most concerned about keeping everything horizontal. I would probably use a LASER level for that.

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I have a cheap laser level. Looks like this:



Came with sticky tape to put on the wall to hang pics. Darn thing never stuck for more than 3 minutes. What kind of laser level would be a good buy for a DIYer? Thanks so much for all of the help! Hope I haven't been a pest.




I was thinking I could use a string and a line level to get a reference line. My other "big" project was a garden wall and the string and a level were used often.

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the pics below represent my attempt to improve the way i secure the horizontal 2 X 4s on my screened porch. the 2 pieces i've done definitely look better than just trying to nail them in, but they are not sitting completely flush. i haven't added any glue or nails yet. at this point i am just trying make sure i can get the pieces straight. i will then remove them and put them in permanently.







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as the last pic above shows, the tip of the horizontal piece isn't snug against the vertical piece. it is much better on the other ends. i think this may be because my framing is a bit off square due to the porch being out of sqaure + me framing for the first time. not sure who to blame more. also, maybe the dados are a bit too small. i have to examine it a bit more. could i just fill in these gaps, add some screws, and cover with molding? the pieces are really tight right now, but i was planning on securing them more permanently. i also need to treat the cut lumber, right?

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also, maybe the dados are a bit too small.
Sometimes, I will take a hand plane and shave the thickness of the inserted piece if you think the dado is a bit too tight.

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could i just fill in these gaps, add some screws, and cover with molding?
That is a good option to me. It appears that there is enough overlap to keep the horizontal member secure.
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also need to treat the cut lumber, right?
I don't, but like polyurethane glue to keep things dry.

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