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joecaption 01-27-2013 11:43 PM

Another stupid story
 
One of my competators got the bid to build a 20' tall garage right down the street from me, I lost the job over $100.00 and suggesting he go with a 36" door instead of a 2-8.
We where working on another house almost right across the street so we could see what was going on.
He gets all the walls up but never installed any of the sheathing on the walls.
I see the truck roll up with all the trusses with a crane right behind him.
They went ahead and set all the trusses and quit for the day.
No cross bracing, no sheathing, looked like a stack of cards.
Want to guess what happened when a thunder storm rolled through that night with 40 MPH winds?
The whole thing was one big pile the next day.
The bad part is he had the same thing happen to him before on another job.

jklingel 01-28-2013 12:14 AM

Sorry to hear, for the owner's sake. That, unfortunately, is why some of us are reluctant to hire a pro that we don't know. I really pity the folks who don't know enough to at least ask a contractor enough questions to ascertain whether or not the dude (or dudess) knows stink from Shinola. Are you going to go over and bid on the clean up now?:thumbup:

joecaption 01-28-2013 12:53 AM

Nope there on there own.

gregzoll 01-28-2013 07:49 AM

Next time set up a time lapse, when these jokers show up to redo the new garage. Good info, when someone gets injured, and there is proof of poor workmanship available.

Fix'n it 01-28-2013 08:48 AM

joe, i see you are online right now. get of your a$& and go over there and take some pics.

md2lgyk 01-28-2013 09:45 AM

Sounds like at least one of the low-quality homebuilders around here. During the Derecho windstorm a few months ago, about half the houses in one of his developments lost some vinyl siding. Guess what? No house wrap to be seen on any of them. My son worked for this guy briefly as a foreman for a framing crew. He quit midway through his first day because he couldn't stand how quickly and sloppily he was expected to work.

joecaption 01-28-2013 09:55 AM

We see that type stuff all to often.
I live in what would be concided a high wind area right on the bay.
I've seen homes built with Cellotex sheathing, no house wrap and used 1" nails.
No tar paper under the shingles.
Laps running the wrong way on the siding so the wind just gets under it and rips it off.
No safty chains on the storm doors so the pistons get bent or ripped out of the walls.
Only 3 or 4 nails per shingle with the gun set so the nails blow right through.
No drip edging.
Ledger boards for a second story deck nailed right over the siding, with no lags.
The roof was attached to the face of the fashia.
All this from the same builder.
He's no longer allowed in Mathews county to do anything.

amakarevic 01-28-2013 10:02 AM

was there enough time to do it right? i suppose if not, he should have watched the weather forecast.

gregzoll 01-28-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by md2lgyk (Post 1103972)
Sounds like at least one of the low-quality homebuilders around here. During the Derecho windstorm a few months ago, about half the houses in one of his developments lost some vinyl siding. Guess what? No house wrap to be seen on any of them. My son worked for this guy briefly as a foreman for a framing crew. He quit midway through his first day because he couldn't stand how quickly and sloppily he was expected to work.

That is about how Construx here in Springfield did their developments in both New Berlin, IL & Riverton, IL. Cheapest homes I have ever seen. Do not even compare to some of the cheapo homes that were done in the 70's as pre-fabs.

joecaption 01-28-2013 10:19 AM

The same builder that had the garage fall down was suppost to turn an old service station down town into a car wash.
They for one had no building permit.
It was right in plain site on the main street.
#2 They added an addition to the building on the bank next doors property.
There was a stop order issued, he lost his licence and it was held up in court for over a year.
So much for getting the lowest bidder.

jcrack_corn 01-28-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1103802)
Nope there on there own.

dont take it personal, its just business...at least wave at the owner when you leave your site, lol!

operagost 01-30-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1103891)
Next time set up a time lapse, when these jokers show up to redo the new garage.

... then play it back so they're scurrying around like Benny Hill without the bikini girls!

rossfingal 01-30-2013 02:18 PM

Don't mean to laugh at another person's misfortune -
(Made enough of my own mistakes) -
Not quite like you describe, though!
Hope the trusses were usable -
(After the "house of cards" - at least, it was "only" a garage!)!
:( (No one got hurt - I hope!)
I guess, it's back to "Remedial, Framing 101"!) :)

rusty baker 01-30-2013 03:47 PM

An assisted living up the street from me was fun to watch being built. There is no sheathing on the walls. They nailed 1/2' foamboard to the studs and hung vinyl siding over that. The roof sheathing is all 1/2' OSB, then shingled. No tar paper. I was watching them build it, the contractor offered me all the leftovers if I would pick them up every night. I got a pickup load of 4x8 1/2" OSB and another of foamboard. Wondering how long before something fails.

operagost 01-30-2013 04:48 PM

What the... you could drive a lawn tractor through the side of that!


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