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Old 01-04-2014, 10:43 PM   #16
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-20 degrees and a blizzard (Indiana). Here's my prep list.


I'm going to keep a close eye on the weather and make a last bonsai beer run in my beloved 1994 Dodge Caravan All Wheel Drive. It's like crossing a Subaru with a hippy love wagon.

Nothing like rolling alone down a barely-visible road with the brights on during heavy snow (try it, you'll like it). The whole world freezes, muffled under 5 inches of fresh powder.

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Moving water does not freeze. Just keep the taps dripping a tiny bit and they should be fine
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The water heater itself will not freeze if you leave the heater on. The pipes coming and going to it might if you don't have heat in the room.
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For your water heater, no matter what the outside temperatures are the soil and concrete in and under your basement is much warmer than the outside air temperatures because of the thermal mass storage. Here in MN our soils about 4' down are about 50-55F and there is a many week lag to cause an appreciable lowering.

For a home with outside wall with lightweight frame construction, the temperature variations will be very radical and faster.

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I have family over near Terre Haute and I worry about them in this weather.

stay warm.

does your town have emergency shelters in case people need them?
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Your water heaters will be fine. They are full of hot water with a heating element. If you have plumbing inside your exterior walls, then leave your taps dripping as creeper suggests. If your toilets' supply lines are in exterior walls, then flush them all just before turning in and flush them all first thing in the morning. If you happen to wake in the night it won't hurt to flush them all again.

This assumes your heat is on.
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I've seen temps that were -32 and nothing happened to anything on the inside of my home. Once or twice water froze up in the copper pipes inside a coal cellar, but, now when temps get that far below zero, I just do as Creeper suggested, let the taps run/drip ever so much and nothing will freeze unless you have incredibly poor insulation.
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Seems the further north you go the less worried folks seem to be. My preparation...nothing.. its just another day.
That is how I look at it. Spent too many hours out in this weather, Deicing aircraft in -30 wind chill, coat soaked with the fluid.

Also spent many hours driving a semi truck in this weather. Many times you could not see the road ten feet ahead of you.

For us on Friday, it was just a normal shopping trip.

I can never get the whole having to freak out over a little weather for a couple of days. I would love to see some of these people get dropped in the middle of nowhere, up in Alaska.

If you have ever seen Railroad Alaska, they highlight the off griders. I doubt that a lot of people could even get through four hours of that lifestyle.
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It is also the first of the month. The snowstorm is not why they are busy. It is because you have those with food stamps, out getting groceries with their Social Security, and of course those who work and using their paychecks to do regular grocery shopping.

If it was not for the College dropouts most of these TV stations hire as reporters, we would not have mass hysteria.
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Gregzoll, I agree with you. The weather is the weather…….it's winter and we get these types of storms. I survived the Blizzard of '78, '93, and the ICE STORM from hell in 1999 (2 straight weeks of solid ice on roads) so it's business as usual. And, with this current storm, even though it's going to be below zero for a few days, the long range forecast is calling for highs in the 40's by next weekend which means some potential flooding and the sub-zero stuff will be just a distant memory.
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What channel is Railroad Alaska on? I've never seen that show.
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What channel is Railroad Alaska on? I've never seen that show.
Destination America. It is one of the cutover channels, that they split off of the Travel Channel.
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Thanks gregzoll. I'll look to see if we have it.
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I think I should have mentioned that this is part of a contingency that includes a likely power outage. As my home has ceiling radiant heat I cannot use any type of non-commercial generator to restore heat.

Please, can some one tell me how to properly drain and antifreeze a toilet such as the one pictured in the event we lose power? I'm already planning to cut my supply line at a handy spot next to the water meter in order to drain the house plumbing, and I have 12 P-traps that I will need to fill with antifreeze.

I know that I should walk through the house from top to bottom, opening taps one at a time to pull as much water as possible from the lines (I hope to heck that is the right process) once I crack the system at the meter with the main water shut off.

I really need someone to answer about proper procedure to prepare a ceramic toilet for freezing temperatures, I've never done it before. One thing I do know, if I don't do it right they might crack.
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For your water heater, no matter what the outside temperatures are the soil and concrete in and under your basement is much warmer than the outside air temperatures because of the thermal mass storage. Here in MN our soils about 4' down are about 50-55F and there is a many week lag to cause an appreciable lowering.

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Thanks Dick, that is the best news all day. I suspected as much, as we never bother to heat the basement - and fortunately we only have two tiny windows on a wall far from the water heaters.

So if I'm hearing you right, I can forget about draining the water heaters, even if I lose power for 36 hours in sub-zero temperatures?

Will it ever get below zero in a basement under an unheated house? How long does it take if that happens (god forbid).

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