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lisa7932 02-27-2012 12:04 AM

Wine rack as load bearing wall?
 
I am going to open up my kitchen and will need to knock down a load bearing wall. This will obviously require me to replace the load bearing wall with a load bearing post. However, I don't just want a boring post in the middle of the kitchen. I'd rather incorporate some design element. My idea is to construct a load bearing wine rack made out of two adjacent load bearing posts, preferably a metal/steel/cast iron post. I understand ultimately that I need to involve an engineer, but before I do that, I'm wondering if this is even a possiblity. I don't know anything about load bearing properties and whether there are such a thing as metal, steel or cast iron load bearing posts that could act as load bearing posts. If so, how wide are these? The narrower, the better. Any help or experience with something like this would be very much appreciated!!

joecaption 02-27-2012 12:13 AM

You do not just knock out the wall and just put a post in.
Both ceilings get temperay walls built to support them. The wall come out and a header is built to span the opening at the top with whats called jacks (2 X 4's under the header) to support it.
There aslo has to be added supports under that floor in the crawl space or basement under the jacks to support them.
Once the headers in place you can add anything or nothing in the new open space.
http://www.carpentry-pro-framer.com/wall_framing.html

Nailbags 02-27-2012 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 864475)
You do not just knock out the wall and just put a post in.
Both ceilings get temperay walls built to support them. The wall come out and a header is built to span the opening at the top with whats called jacks (2 X 4's under the header) to support it.
There aslo has to be added supports under that floor in the crawl space or basement under the jacks to support them.
Once the headers in place you can add anything or nothing in the new open space.
http://www.carpentry-pro-framer.com/wall_framing.html

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lisa7932 02-27-2012 01:07 AM

That is not what my architect told me. He told me that I could replace the load bearing wall with a support post/column to help carry the load. My question is, rather than using wood posts that are load bearing, can I use some type of metal load bearing post?

joecaption 02-27-2012 01:29 AM

Why would you want a metal coloum to show in a room? It would look like the steel post in a basement.
Look a whole lot better to frame it it like I suggested and you could had some coloums for looks.
http://www.columns.com/

Pittsville 02-27-2012 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lisa7932 (Post 864511)
That is not what my architect told me. He told me that I could replace the load bearing wall with a support post/column to help carry the load. My question is, rather than using wood posts that are load bearing, can I use some type of metal load bearing post?

Your architect only gave you the "before and after" parts of the procedure. You can't just remove a load bearing wall and then pick up and install a support post in it's place. As Joe mentioned, you need to temporarily support the ceiling before removing the wall. After the wall is out, you would install an appropriately sized beam to carry the load. The beam would sit on top of your support posts which in turn need to be sitting over an adequate footing. To answer your question, yes, in most situations a metal support post can be used.


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