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hohadcr 04-15-2013 11:12 AM

what to replace outdoor cedar siding.
 
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Hi, I need to replace some outdoor cedar siding. The current cedar siding looks like the one in the pic below.

I am tired of taking care of the cedar. I need to find a replacement siding that is low-maintainence, long lasting and looks natural.

Any suggestions?

firehawkmph 04-16-2013 11:16 AM

You might look at fiber cement siding. You could probably go right over the cedar since the existing is flat on the wall. I don't know if they make the same style as what you have. Properly painted on all edges, the cement siding holds up very well.
Mike Hawkins:)

Amateuralex 04-16-2013 01:00 PM

Innocent question: Isn't fiber cement siding just as difficult to maintain as cedar? Painting and caulking, right?

I think everyone in the universe wants cedar siding without the maintenance. My understanding is that the budget folks use vinyl, and the richer folk use cement board. There's a lot of people who hate vinyl, but IMO it's come a long way and really wins in the budget/maintenance category.

firehawkmph 04-16-2013 03:41 PM

If fiber cement siding is painted properly, which means primed on all four sides (edges) then first coat of finish pain on all four sides. Siding is installed, butt joints caulked during installation. All other joints caulked (windows, corners, etc.) Finally, one more coat of finish is applied with airless sprayer. Sherwin Williams used to project 25 years before a repaint using this process. Fiber cement doesn't have the moisture problems associated with wood. So the paint doesn't have a tendency to bubble and crack. Last time we did a job like that on a new house, it was 2 1/2 times the cost of vinyl siding.
Mike Hawkins:)

Gary in WA 04-16-2013 11:34 PM

Pull the cedar if using f.c., or the wood will be wet, use another WRB with a drainage gap. It requires 1-1/4" fastener length into the stud, anyway, and hard to detail windows/doors. No caulk at the butt joints, just flashing. IMO, don't paint the primed back face to restrict/trap water draining as it is a reservoir siding. Back ventilate or foamboard for your location. fc017.pdf (application/pdf Object)

Gary

hohadcr 04-25-2013 10:49 PM

I thought that there is some kind of siding where the paint is dyed into the material.

jagans 04-25-2013 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hohadcr (Post 1167373)
I thought that there is some kind of siding where the paint is dyed into the material.

Yeah, its called solid Vinyl. Its the most care free siding that you can install, bar none. Anything you paint is going to require maintenance. Cement board is no better than the old asbestos stratolite shingles, Great product, but it required re-painting. A high quality Vinyl Siding will look good for at least 40 years with very minimal attention.

The purists can spend their time painting. Id rather spend mine fishing.

Give the cement board a few years. People will be complaining about it big time. Guar-on-teed

Amateuralex 04-26-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hohadcr (Post 1167373)
I thought that there is some kind of siding where the paint is dyed into the material.

We're having Certainteed Monogram 46 installed right now, but all of the good vinyl now is a solid color with UV protectants and is expected to barely fade over long periods of time. Certainteed says that it will age 'gracefully', which means some fading is inevitable but it will be uniform, not drastic, and the siding will stay attractive. I think the Sears brand, forgetting the name, garauntees it not to move more than 3 shades on their color chart over 50 years.

Siding that needs nothing but a power washing every year or so and is otherwise perfect for 50 years, and it is one of the most inexpensive options is hard to beat.

We had old aluminum siding on the house from 1978, and it had a fake wood texture that looks terrible. The monogram stuff has actual imprints of cedar boards and actually looks hilariously good for being so fake.


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