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Old 02-25-2014, 10:26 AM   #1
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What is this? PVC pipe coming out of a drain?


If I posted in the wrong Forum, sorry! I am not sure where this question falls because I do not know what this is.

We bought the house 09/12. The house is a tri-level. I was curious as to why the previous owner(s) had placed this pipe into the floor drain in the laundry room (on lowest level of the house) and put a cap on it. The pipe is 4" in diameter, and is 35" tall. It fits very snugly in the floor opening. And when there is a lot of rain, there is water that comes up the pipe. The most I've seen is what I estimated to be 10" high. For this reason, I think it is supposed to take water (hydrostatic?) pressure off of the slab. Other times, the water level is visible, but is below floor level. Does anyone know what this is? Is this a normal set-up? The three people I've asked (foundation repair and HVAC) had never seen this type of thing before.
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Ayuh,.... My guess is it's a rather ingenious stand pipe to eliminate basement floodin',...

Without it, you'd have seen 10" of water all over the basement, insteada just the 10" in the pipe,...

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Ayuh,.... My guess is it's a rather ingenious stand pipe to eliminate basement floodin',...

Without it, you'd have seen 10" of water all over the basement, insteada just the 10" in the pipe,...
Why have the hole there in the first place then?
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Why would they not have just installed a sump pump?
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Why have the hole there in the first place then?

Bondo's right,it's a stand pipe and the purpose is to stop basement flooding,but it's not taking pressure off the floor it's putting it on, the higher the water in the pipe the more pressure on the drain pipe.
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Why would they not have just installed a sump pump?
Got that as well. It was very inadequate, I installed 3 pumps in the pit to keep up with the water. Long story; but in the first year we were here, the house flooded twice.
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Bondo's right,it's a stand pipe and the purpose is to stop basement flooding,but it's not taking pressure off the floor it's putting it on, the higher the water in the pipe the more pressure on the drain pipe.
I still don't get it. If the hole wasn't there, where would the water go? I thought it may be forced up through the cracks in the floor. This happens when we get heavy rain.
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I still don't get it. If the hole wasn't there, where would the water go? I thought it may be forced up through the cracks in the floor. This happens when we get heavy rain.
Ayuh,.... If the hole weren't there, ya wouldn't have a Floor Drain,....
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Ayuh,.... If the hole weren't there, ya wouldn't have a Floor Drain,....
I agree that it is a stand pipe, but most floor drains I have seen connect to the sewer system somewhere.
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Ayuh,.... If the hole weren't there, ya wouldn't have a Floor Drain,....
We don't have a drain now. The hole is not a drain. Unless it's a drain that backs up when we get heavy rain. And that doesn't make sense to me.
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water seeks its own level so, if you could wait long enough, you'd see it at pipe height level outside the bsmt walls,,, i suspect the pipe's water level is caused by hydrostatic pressure IF the pipe weren't there, water pressure under the slab would force the water thru ANY slight opening/crack/joint in the bsmt floor, the ' cove ' [ where walls meet floor ], or bsmt,,, bsmts are like a ship's hull below the waterline

you post'd it ' happens when we get heavy rain ',,, is that addl water thru floor cracks OR just a rising wtr level in the standpipe ?,,, in 35yrs, i've never seen that method, either
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I agree that it is a stand pipe, but most floor drains I have seen connect to the sewer system somewhere.
Wait a sec, maybe I misunderstood Bondo.. stand pipes are used in conjunction with floor drains? I don't understand that either; for example... if the washer overflows, or the basement floods for any reason, there is no way for the water to get into the "drain" with the pipe there. The water would just go to the sump pit. Seems redundant.

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that's why the plastic pail is waterproofing's greatest invention in the end, it doesn't matter - the guy who did that's gone time for a sump & pump ?
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What is this? PVC pipe coming out of a drain?


This the hole without the pipe inserted. The water level is currently 8 1/2" below the floor level.
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water seeks its own level so, if you could wait long enough, you'd see it at pipe height level outside the bsmt walls,,, i suspect the pipe's water level is caused by hydrostatic pressure IF the pipe weren't there, water pressure under the slab would force the water thru ANY slight opening/crack/joint in the bsmt floor, the ' cove ' [ where walls meet floor ], or bsmt,,, bsmts are like a ship's hull below the waterline

you post'd it ' happens when we get heavy rain ',,, is that addl water thru floor cracks OR just a rising wtr level in the standpipe ?,,, in 35yrs, i've never seen that method, either
When we get heavy rain, water comes up in the pipe. When we get REALLY heavy rain, we get water coming up through the cracks.


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