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Old 08-26-2011, 04:29 PM   #1
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what length staple should I use for underlayment?


Tomorrow I am renting a stapler that takes up to 1 1/2 inch narrow crown staplers. I am not sure what length staples to purchase.

I am stapling 5/8 inch plywood down onto plank flooring (subfloor) that is 3/4 inch thick. This comes to be 1 3/8 inch thick. I have never used a stapler before and not sure about the "rules." No one around here seems to know.

Can I use 1 1/4 inch staples? If I do, they will not go through all the way to the basement. If I use 1 1/2, they will show in the basement. I hope staples are not supposed to be 1.5 times the thickness you are going through like nails.

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I'd use screws, not staples.

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The code in Utah where I am allows for 1" 3/4 staples to be used to secure the floor sheathing. This is not allowed in all areas. Most people will tell you to use an 8 penny ring shank nail and alot of glue
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The code in Utah where I am allows for 1" 3/4 staples to be used to secure the floor sheathing. This is not allowed in all areas. Most people will tell you to use an 8 penny ring shank nail and alot of glue
Screw the code and screw the floor(with adhesive)
No squeeks
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The staples actualy seem to work pretty well as far as eliminating squeaks goes. If someone is worried about it I screw the hallways down in addition to the staples.
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If I did, and I have started doing that, how many per sheet of plywood. I have found that it has been a pita.
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The code in Utah where I am allows for 1" 3/4 staples to be used to secure the floor sheathing. This is not allowed in all areas. Most people will tell you to use an 8 penny ring shank nail and alot of glue

So, I should be using longer staples than the underlayment and subfloor combined? I would be afraid I would hit some pipes downstairs. And the rental only goes up to 1.5 inches
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Im not sure what the UBC says but I would think 6" on edges and 8" in the field would be ok
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What about the floor joists? Can't you staple over them?
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The staples actualy seem to work pretty well as far as eliminating squeaks goes. If someone is worried about it I screw the hallways down in addition to the staples.
Can I get away with using the length staples I proposed above? There are some squeaks with the subfloor. It is tongue and groove wood plank. How do I get rid of those squeaks?

So, when everyone is talking about getting rid of squeaks, is it the subfloor that is causing the squeaks usually so you nail down the underlayment a lot and it stops the subfloor from squeaking?
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If I did, and I have started doing that, how many per sheet of plywood. I have found that it has been a pita.
Every 8"on the edge, 12" in the field.
There are screw guns that use 50 screw bandoliers that will make it go faster.
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I doubt you will be able to eliminate the squeaks in the planking completely. I'm guessing it's nailed down with smooth shank nails and unless you go through and tighten it up first I think your going to find that it still squeaks no matter how you install the new sheathing.
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I doubt you will be able to eliminate the squeaks in the planking completely. I'm guessing it's nailed down with smooth shank nails and unless you go through and tighten it up first I think your going to find that it still squeaks no matter how you install the new sheathing.
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Be sure to orient the plywood properly if no t&g edges: http://www.apawood.org/pablog/index....-Floor-Systems

Acclimate it, leave end gaps, step #2; refasten sub-floor, as said- step #3; no glue for certain sheet goods, step #4; Table #2 for fastener length, offset all joints. http://www.apa-europe.org/Languages/.../PDF/R340G.pdf

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