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Old 04-04-2013, 09:49 AM   #1
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What do I do if the floor dips towards a hallway?


I've attached a couple of pictures that describe my problem. It's a small bedroom that I was hoping to laminate until I removed all the old carpeting and saw how badly the floor dipped in one entire section towards a hallway. The ceiling of the room below is level and all doors close normally. Two carpeting installers suggest I remove the OSB and plane/sand the joists on the higher side of the room to make the floor level. It seems the sensible thing to do as the joists are only really supporting the floor of the bedroom, but I'm certainly not an expert.

I'm just looking for some advice on how I should proceed.
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That is pretty serious sagging. I would try to determine and address what's causing it, not do some band-aid fix.

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First of all, How can the ceiling below be level? Have you pulled a string line across the ceiling? Try that again, and come back and let us know. That floor is really out, my friend. I would trip and fall on my face every time I walked into that room! Judging by the sub-floor this house is not too old either. How old is it?
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The house was built in 1976.
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on which side of hump in the middle is the floor level?
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On the right. I've attached another couple of pictures to show that side of the floor.
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I would tear up that sub floor and find out what is going on. This would drive me nuts till I did. I would then track down and axe murder the builder.
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I would tear up that sub floor and find out what is going on. This would drive me nuts till I did. I would then track down and axe murder the builder.

LOL, thanks, but I hope it doesn't come to that. Tearing up the subfloor was my first step. I just hope it isn't something major.
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Not to be a downer but I'd ditch that 2x4 and go get yourself a 4' level before you go tearing up anything. Just to make sure you know which part is level or not.

whats under this room? Basement, crawlspace, 1st level.
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Since you've already got the subfloor visible I'd suggest pulling up a section over the problem area to help figure out just what's going wrong there. Get a claw bar with a nail digger to help get at those nails if a hammer won't do it easily. http://dewalt.com/tools/hand-tools-h...dwht55524.aspx

Was this part of an addition? Might there be some past changes or other construction issues that would explain it?

I would not go planning on removing anything from structure. Joists need to be certain sizes over distance. You can't just go carving off pieces of them without knowing their up to the task to begin with. Lots of houses got built with wood that was barely up to the task. You don't want to start hacking at it and make things worse.

But as Brock points out, are you sure you're not checking it's level using a warped 2x4?

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I can get a 6' level from home depot and I'll start with that section first. The room sits over part of my living room and the main doorway entrance (mud room area). Just one question: How does one work over joists? Do I lay a piece of plywood down so that I don't stick my feet through the ceiling, or is that a dumb newbie question?
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Its called a "Cats Paw" in case you go to a hardware store where they know something, not a "Nail Digger". A nail digger is a meth addict on red bull.

No that's not a dumb question at all. Yes lay down plywood, and don't leave a cantilever condition. Remove all nails as you go along and for gods sake take off those slippers and put on some work boots. Joist walking will kill your arches in slippers.
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I dont think you will have to work over any exposed joists but if you do I'd just lay down a section of 2x10 or 2x12 to stand on while you work. A section of plywood would work fine too depending on your joist spacing. Once you get that level lets revisit the problem.
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Will do, thanks everyone for the advice.

P.s. The slippers belong to my wife, I work in boots.
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Its called a "Cats Paw" in case you go to a hardware store where they know something, not a "Nail Digger".
Go read the vendor's description of it.

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  • Nail digger exposes the head of a flush nail so it can be pulled with minimal damage to the wood
  • Extra wide strike surface helps user accurately strike the bar to get under a nail or behind material to pry
  • I-beam shaft provides strength without adding weight
  • Pointed penetration end digs into material to remove embedded nails
There's a cylinder on the side of the head that helps dimple down around a buried nail head to allow the claw portion to get a clearer bite around it. They call it a nail digger and it's aptly named. I've had several different kinds of these bars and that little add-on is a nice feature. Not one you've 'got to' have but for a DIY newbie it's a nice bit of extra help. Especially given the job he's considering.

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