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Old 09-29-2011, 09:37 PM   #1
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I would like to get a welder. The project I have in mind is a railing with black pipe newel posts and rebar for balusters. So I would be welding rebar to rebar and rebar to black pipe. I saw on Craigslist a Clark 130en. What do you guys recommend?

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Old 09-30-2011, 12:28 AM   #2
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I am not familiar w/ anything but "the oldies", like Hobart, Miller, Lincoln, etc, in the welding world. I'd get a descent AC buzz box and use E7018 electrode made SPECIFICALLY for AC. Also, it would not hurt at all to pre-heat the rebar a tad, as it is a bit brittle. Do your best to not undercut when you weld; that will kill the joint as quickly as anything; go slow enough to fill in the void the arc makes. Good luck.

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Not familiar with the one you describing but I would recommend a flux core wire feed welder.
I think you would have better luck and a less steep learning curve that a stick welder.

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Is a "buzz box" just another name for a arc welder? What type of welder is easier to do a good job?
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Is a "buzz box" just another name for a arc welder? What type of welder is easier to do a good job?
A Mig welder is almost idiot proof. Lower learning curve then Arc or Tig but still requires more then just opening the box and lighting it up.
I would suggest taking a course in it's use, especially if you're making railings or other structural pieces.
Around here they have a school called BOCES. When I decided to work older cars again, I took a welding course to see which type of welder I wanted to buy. They taught Arc, Mig, Tig and Oxy-acetylene. After we learned how to use each of the devices(2-3hour classes), we would weld for 3 hours for the next 8 classes. If you were interested in getting certified, you could go on and take more advanced courses.
The guy who taught the course was a professional welder.
I ended up buying a Hobart 140 mig welder.
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I did take welding in high-school, arc and oxy-acetylene. Not interested in any certification. Mostly this one project, that I can't even get my welder to come do, even if I had the money.
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Mostly this one project, that I can't even get my welder to come do, even if I had the money.
I don't know what you mean by this.
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An old friend of mine is a welder, I take stuff to him for repairs, but this railing has to be welded in place. I can't get him out here. And I really won't have much use for the welder after this one project.
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An old friend of mine is a welder, I take stuff to him for repairs, but this railing has to be welded in place. I can't get him out here. And I really won't have much use for the welder after this one project.
Then why did you post," I would like to get a welder"?
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Because I want to get a welder, for this project.
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Because I want to get a welder, for this project.
Rent one.
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$70 a day for an arc welder. I would rather buy one. So how is the Clarke 130en?
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So how is the Clarke 130en?
Ayuh,... Anemic at best...

To weld rebar, ya need at Least a 180 amp machine...
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Tractor Supply carries a relatively cheap Fluxcore unit for about $130. I think it only goes up to 80amps, but with this being a railing, you would probably get adaquete penetration, a tack weld sounds like it would be sufficiente in this situation. I welded a truck frame this past spring with and an 80amp welder was more than sufficient, you can always do multiple passes.
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There is a Clarke 130en which is 130amp with cart on craigslist for $250.

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