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Old 12-18-2009, 07:47 PM   #16
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so it is hollow?

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Old 12-18-2009, 08:45 PM   #17
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so it is hollow?
hollow? no...porous yes, but not hollow...
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Old 12-19-2009, 04:52 AM   #18
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wtf is he talkin' about & when/where did your ' home inspector ' get his designation ? ? ? cinder ash wall? the homes in your area either HAVE a foundation or they DON'T cinder blocks're composed of various screened sizes of cinders ( aggregate ), cement, & water,,, most were extruded & sawed into 8" height but the 1st were cast.

ashes could've been added much as we add flyash today to conc,,, not uncommon to see many adjacent homes of an era be built using common methods mtls - rather, its to be expected,,, but w-t-f compressive strength would ANYTHING have constructed from ashes ?

hope this helps - far's as injection, you need to call someone & hopefully you can find a qualified mechanic to help,,, unfortunately, there aren't many guys like bondo & me around 38yrs i've been f'n around w/conc - either fixing, replacing, paving, sealing, enhancing, coring, sawing, jointing, sub-sealing, mud-jacking, staining, polishing, drilling, injecting, blowing, & waterproofing - you may be more experienced & smarter, tho



what you can do yourself is forget caulk as that's a poor choice for material,,, 100% silicone, polyurethane, OR polysulfide is MUCH better im-n-s-h-fo,,, prep the work area correctly 1st for best mtl performance & long life of the repair.

good luck - done w/this thread !

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Old 12-19-2009, 10:44 AM   #19
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I would like to see some pics
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Matty,

The reason he asked if it was "hollow" was to determine if the waterline was coming in through an underground conduit. This would be a special problem but it seems that your answer was no to this.

If your walls really are CINDER ASH, I will tell you that these are common in COAL TOWNS. They are actually poured cinder. Cinders are a by-product of the coal mining industry. 50 years ago or better, they poured a cinder / concrete mixture into forms like they do with poured concrete wall today. They are very pourous and tend to shed or "spawl" quite a bit.

A product called urethane crack injection works well on these. On this site http://www.b-dry.com/basement-wall-cracks.html they explain it briefly. Basically, 3/4" holes are drilled completely through the wall around your water line, maybe 4 to 6 holes in a circle patern. Pressure fittings are then inserted into these holes. The urethane foam is injected completely through the wall and out into the soil around the water line. As the urethane comes into contact with moisture in the soil, it will greatly expand, up to 20X its original volume and seal the opening where your water line comes inthrough your foundation wall.

It is not uncommon to have small leaks after the first injection but it can be repeated again to find the small leaks that the first injection missed.
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:01 AM   #21
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was done til i read that,,, cinders are a by-product of burned coal as blk beauty, the sandblasting aggregate, is from steel furnaces = its crushed ' slag ',,, some jr members're not old enough to remember these things

i don't care if its hollow or not - the obvious method to me ( we do this item as part of our work ),,, urethanes are coatings to protect epoxy floors just as we do hangar floors,,, hydrophyllic polyurethane grout is the product andy should mention im-n-s-h-fo

wondered why someone ask'd if it were hollow - figur'd it was 'cause blk was mention'd but no matter as wtr's STILL coming thru whether hollow or not,,, btw, the word is ' spall ' & it refers to conc

b-dry's a nationwide of bsmt wtrproofing franchisees,,, some're decent & others're so-so but they all stay w/b-dry's suggest'd franchise methods { newark's b-dry guy was a waterproofer, too - i lik'd him },,, - just never had seen that method which'd work in most situations 'cept i wouldn't pick it,,, [if you do read that page, you'll find some obvious errors - eg, why in hell would anyone direct a leaking crk into a dry well under the floor & think that'll also handle hydrostatic leaks ? hiding crks w/fiber-reinforced glass panels doesn't stop leaks, either ] we stop those from outside ( hate callbacks 'cause of embarrassment/expense & clients don't like 'em either )

forums're great but the best advice'll still come from an experience guy w/direct sight on your problem.


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Old 12-22-2009, 11:52 AM   #22
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well, basement systems guy came in yesterday and recommended a sump pump to be safe...which i think is probably a good idea for me to have one installed just in case, even if it never runs at least it's there if something happens (and it's much easier than shop-vac'ing and shuttling 30+ gallons of water out of the basement.

one thing - the guy did recommend even if i don't have the pump installed to not seal the hole with cement...any ideas why it would be a bad idea to do this? i am going to take pictures of the actual hole when i get home from work this afternoon...i'll put them up as soon as i have them.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:21 PM   #23
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' basement systems ' the franchise guy OR was that a generic term you pick'd ?

not a clue on leaving a hole unsealed which pours wtr, tho,,, could it be so the pump'll have something to do rather'n just sit in the sump & rust ? we sealed a stone foundation hole on another job w/hydraulic, asphalt roofing cement, & miradrain protection ? sounds just like your house why can I ever run into customers such as you ?

sold exterior system today - 80' full excavation - waterproof membrane [ tremco tuff 'n' dri protected by miradrain w/toe drain 4" filter-cloth protected pipe leading to daylight & tee'd drain from his crawl space,,, all dug by hand w/8T 1" stone backfill - $ 5,200

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Old 12-22-2009, 03:42 PM   #24
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here are pictures of the front of the house, taken a few minutes ago
Seems like the downspout from the back is dumping water right into the space near the foundation
I 'd put a 45/90 on that & direct it away

Also looks like that pipe from the downspout was recently patched
Hope they connected it right or it could be dumping water into the ground

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here are pics from the basement...
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sorry, here's the first one rotated the right way...
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:56 PM   #27
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What's going on with that pipe in picture #2 under the steps where is the other end at and does water ever flow through it??

I am taking a guess and say it just comes from the other side of the steps.

I agree with Scuba make sure that ell is on tight and extend it out farther from the house.

Make sure all your downspout ells are far away from the foundation.
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Where is the water pipe in relation to the drains outside the house ?

If it ONLY occurs during rain then they are right, it is ground water
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:20 PM   #29
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the steps that have the two drain pipes (seen in the outside pictures) are immediately to the corner on the right side of the interior. the opening in the top of the basement wall is the old window that went outside before they put the current concrete porch in...

as a frame of reference, if you look at the old window opening you can see the oil pipe running along there (the tanks are just out of picture view to the left). the oil pipe outside is visible in the exterior picture by the front porch steps...
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Old 12-29-2009, 06:07 PM   #30
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just an update on this: we had a pretty heavy rain this past weekend, and no water. seems that caulking the hole underneath the oil pipe may have solved the issue for now <knock on wood>...

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