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Old 07-15-2012, 01:17 PM   #16
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Wall removal, ceiling joist issue.


Images showing the new Pex tubing going to the attic for the second floor heating system. Also an image showing the area with the sheetrock removed.
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:19 PM   #17
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A couple of images showing the wires that ran up from the basement to the second floor. These had to be unhooked from the main circuit box and pulled all the way back into the kitchen and rerun back the the main panel.

Some of the kitchen light wires were left unattached as the lighting may be moved.

The hole in the floor is a return back to the central air/heating system. It used the curved wall as a duct. The kitchen cabinet maker is going to provide slots in the toe kick of the base cabinet going over this for the air return.
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:24 PM   #18
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A rew images with everything done ready for the new header. Took a lot of work to get this far.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:33 PM   #19
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Since the Dining room ceiling joists are supported by the dining room wall (also a bearing wall) we only built 1 false wall on the kitchen side to support its ceiling. After removing the old wall, sections of the joists were removed to fit the three microlams. They were slid in place and additional supports were placed at each end. Tecos were added on the kitchen side and wherever we could on the dining room side. (some pipes were in the way).

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Old 07-15-2012, 04:45 PM   #20
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Since the Dining room ceiling joists are supported by the dining room wall (also a bearing wall) we only built 1 false wall on the kitchen side to support its ceiling. After removing the old wall, sections of the joists were removed to fit the three microlams. They were slid in place and additional supports were placed at each end. Tecos were added on the kitchen side and wherever we could on the dining room side. (some pipes were in the way).

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What's supporting the king and jack studs on each side?
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:23 PM   #21
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Its been a few weeks but we decided to go ahead with the project. As reccomended I did seak out professional help. Of course that has been reccomended to me for a long time but that is another story. The person making the kitchen cabinets used to be a GC and looked at it and felt it could easily be done with microlams. He also asked for another section of wall to come down to improve the looks of the kitchen As he was adding additional cabinetry to an already fixed price I couldn't complain. A coworker's dad is a seasoned GC and I asked him to take a look at it. He thought it would take a day of work, and showed me a pic of a recent job with a longer span that needed to be supported. He did get help on the load capacity and was told 2 2x10 microlams would work so he went with three.
Price was reasonable as well. Perhaps being a friend's dad helped.

After opening more of the wall additional wiring was revealed etc. The central vac and water lines to the heating system in the attic were fairly straight forward. They were moved to the dining room wall 30" away and ran across the ceiling to where they went up to the second floor through a wall above. First time I have worked with Pex and I really liked it. Never a fan of soldering copper. Of course one section of sheetrock in a finished basement ceiling area had to be cut away to get to the vac connections. The other area had a drop ceiling to work through.

Wiring took a while. Most of it was just rerouted with a couple of junction boxes above the drop ceiling below. One wire required a junction box in the closet next to the wall that would remain. (I now have an outlet in the closet).

Several wires were a challenge. They wett to the second floor and can seen just hanging in what used to tbe the curved wall. They took a strange route from the basement up as the area had a lot of support structure and little free space. There were 5 wires. I ended up unhooking them from the main circuit box and pulling them all the way free into the kitchen. Then I could rerun them through the ceiling and down through the remaining wall and back to the main panel. I did have to add about 8 feet to each line so junction boxes were placed in the basement ceiling. This is an area that will have a dropped ceiling if ever finished.

Cable, telephone lines and alarm wires were all just spliced to reroute them.

All in all took several weeks of working on it in between real work and sleeping.
Did you get permits and inspections for this job?
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:22 PM   #22
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What's supporting the king and jack studs on each side?
These were original bearing points with wood blocking below right to the main microlam beams which run down the center of the basement. The right end is right over a metal post and the left is right over a group of 2 x 4 studs from microlam to foundation.
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