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Old 05-03-2013, 01:35 PM   #46
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Do you understand the proper overlap of both paper AND the "J" channel at window and door corners? This is covered in the manual a couple of guys posted... but as I recall, the drawings neglect to show you how the tabs of the upper parts go on the outside (overlap)...... while on the bottoms, the tabs go underneath.

The big thing with this "flashing" stuff is to learn to imagine where water will either flow OVER something, and go on down and dump on the ground... or where it could flow UNDER (behind) a joint, and flow back inside the wall, getting trapped there, probably causing mold and rot.

Track the water path, inch by inch, and spot anywhere water might get funneled back toward the inside.

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Do you understand the proper overlap of both paper AND the "J" channel at window and door corners? This is covered in the manual a couple of guys posted... but as I recall, the drawings neglect to show you how the tabs of the upper parts go on the outside (overlap)...... while on the bottoms, the tabs go underneath.

The big thing with this "flashing" stuff is to learn to imagine where water will either flow OVER something, and go on down and dump on the ground... or where it could flow UNDER (behind) a joint, and flow back inside the wall, getting trapped there, probably causing mold and rot.

Track the water path, inch by inch, and spot anywhere water might get funneled back toward the inside.
Building wrap should start at bottom and top piece should always overlap bottom by at least 2" Taps on top of the window j channel should cover the sides so water flows over the header channel and the side channel should overlap sit on top of the bottom j channel. Do you recommend a type of drip edge flashing to go under the vinyl starter strip to divert water away? Also, are you knowledgeable in plumbing?
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Building wrap should start at bottom and top piece should always overlap bottom by at least 2" Taps on top of the window j channel should cover the sides so water flows over the header channel and the side channel should overlap sit on top of the bottom j channel. Do you recommend a type of drip edge flashing to go under the vinyl starter strip to divert water away? Also, are you knowledgeable in plumbing?
Nope, just the starter strip. And about all I know about plumbing is that hot is on the left, water runs downhill, and the brown stuff floats.
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Nope, just the starter strip. And about all I know about plumbing is that hot is on the left, water runs downhill, and the brown stuff floats.
Are you familiar with adding aluminum fascia to the sub fascia and fascia returns boxes?
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Nope, just the starter strip. And about all I know about plumbing is that hot is on the left, water runs downhill, and the brown stuff floats.
Whats the difference in soffit install if your plan on brick siding or like fiber cement siding?
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Whats the difference in soffit install if your plan on brick siding or like fiber cement siding?
Can't say for sure. Never done either.

Most everything we do down here is stuccoed.
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hello I hope this helps! You install f channel for vinyl soffit and install j channel and undersill trim for vinyl siding

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I'll say it again... Do NOT fasten channel to the face of the siding. You will be ever so sorry. (Go see one of my very first posts... # 11, I believe it is.)
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I'll say it again... Do NOT fasten channel to the face of the siding. You will be ever so sorry. (Go see one of my very first posts... # 11, I believe it is.)
In your pictures you have the siding behind the lookouts. How would you do that without nailing these lookouts into the siding?
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In your pictures you have the siding behind the lookouts. How would you do that without nailing these lookouts into the siding?
Look at the drawings and read the words. (Post #13)

It was not simply because I was bored that day, and felt like drawing the lookouts a certain way with the bottom corner cut off matching the angle of the siding, and I also pointed out that fact in the text..... No, it really wasn't........... I could have been watching TV, instead.

The lookouts are nailed only where the flat top ends butt against the wall ABOVE the siding profiles. And, yes, that's all the nailing you need on that end because not a lot of soffit weighs more than a few ounces.
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Look at the drawings and read the words. (Post #13)

It was not simply because I was bored that day, and felt like drawing the lookouts a certain way with the bottom corner cut off matching the angle of the siding, and I also pointed out that fact in the text..... No, it really wasn't........... I could have been watching TV, instead.

The lookouts are nailed only where the flat top ends butt against the wall ABOVE the siding profiles. And, yes, that's all the nailing you need on that end because not a lot of soffit weighs more than a few ounces.
Ok I see now the lookouts have been cut to match the siding profile then the siding is nailed to the wall and the j channel for the soffit is nailed to the lookouts covering the top part of the siding. Since you notched out part of the lookouts what kind of ledger are you using? In the picture part of the lookout is not nailed to the ledger just from what I see.
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Ok I see now the lookouts have been cut to match the siding profile then the siding is nailed to the wall and the j channel for the soffit is nailed to the lookouts covering the top part of the siding. Since you notched out part of the lookouts what kind of ledger are you using? In the picture part of the lookout is not nailed to the ledger just from what I see.
The easiest way is to place the lookouts right where the wall studs are. A nail gun makes it easy to fasten to the studs through the wrapping.

If you do need a ledger, the drawing shows how to notch for whatever size you use.
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The easiest way is to place the lookouts right where the wall studs are. A nail gun makes it easy to fasten to the studs through the wrapping.

If you do need a ledger, the drawing shows how to notch for whatever size you use.
Shouldn't the lookout ends lets say 2x4's be flush with a 2x4 ledger?
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The easiest way is to place the lookouts right where the wall studs are. A nail gun makes it easy to fasten to the studs through the wrapping.

If you do need a ledger, the drawing shows how to notch for whatever size you use.
So basically the notch in the lookouts on the wall ends are to create a space for the siding, right? then in front of the siding you attach your j channel to the lookouts to but the soffit up against the siding?
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The easiest way is to place the lookouts right where the wall studs are. A nail gun makes it easy to fasten to the studs through the wrapping.

If you do need a ledger, the drawing shows how to notch for whatever size you use.
Here is another thing my gable rake wall has no overhang. How do I get a flush fascia so the siding goes under it?

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