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mikem201 02-11-2013 05:12 PM

Vinyl siding issue
 
My garage is about 50 yrs old and has no sheathing just 1 by 4 cross bracing with roofing felt attached which is really deteriorating. The previous owner put up vinyl siding over wood siding which to me was not smart. Lately I have noticed some water getting under the vinyl past the wood siding and through the felt. I plan to remove the vinyl and wood siding from that area and put up sheathing with house wrap and put the vinyl back up. Do you think a drip edge type of flashing is smart under the bottom course of vinyl siding?

joecaption 02-11-2013 05:45 PM

Got to have a picture.
Siding over old wooden siding is done all the time with no issues.
Only place I can see it leaking is if the slab was pored to low and it's coming in under the wall.

mikem201 02-11-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1115210)
Got to have a picture.
Siding over old wooden siding is done all the time with no issues.
Only place I can see it leaking is if the slab was pored to low and it's coming in under the wall.

Yes slab was poured too low and the wall foundation was not brought up high enough. I can see some drips about halfway up the wall from behind the felt and yes there is some water getting in under the wall. Should I seal the wall issue on the outside with sealant or a flashing? As far as the drips from above what do you think about my suggestion from the previous post?

joecaption 02-11-2013 08:25 PM

Got to have that picture.

mikem201 02-12-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1115337)
Got to have that picture.

why do you need a picture when I am explaining this to you?

joecaption 02-12-2013 08:22 AM

Not sure how anyone here can tell you why a sided wall can leak in the middle, the best way to keep the bottom from leaking, what measures to take to prevent future damage without seeing it.
All you will end up with is a bunch of guesses and more questions without a picture.

mikem201 02-12-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1115575)
Not sure how anyone here can tell you why a sided wall can leak in the middle, the best way to keep the bottom from leaking, what measures to take to prevent future damage without seeing it.
All you will end up with is a bunch of guesses and more questions without a picture.

Just give me your opinion. I don't own a camera.

woodworkbykirk 02-12-2013 03:04 PM

he cant give an opinion without seeing whats going on.. it can be like a doctor diagnosing a severed limb over the phone

kaschmid3 02-12-2013 05:45 PM

Any pics hard to envision. Is there an overhang, exposed rafter tails. Old school roofing and siding used to be put up that way with bridging ( or 1x4) for cedar shakes do there was somewhere to nail

joecaption 02-12-2013 06:06 PM

No drip cap is not going to keep out water!

Gary in WA 02-12-2013 06:15 PM

Another exact thread was merged with this one, please keep only this thread active. Members will find it when checking "New posts", thank you, Gary

mikem201 02-12-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kaschmid3 (Post 1116052)
Any pics hard to envision. Is there an overhang, exposed rafter tails. Old school roofing and siding used to be put up that way with bridging ( or 1x4) for cedar shakes do there was somewhere to nail

Yes there is an overhang of about 6 inches or so, not much. What do you think of my suggestion in regards to fixing the issue? Also, do you suggest a drip edge under the bottom course of vinyl siding so water does not get under the wall and into the garage?

kaschmid3 02-13-2013 05:28 AM

Yes for the bottom try putting apiece of 1/4 in azek (or similar material) so that it goes past the slab and also past the vinyl(prefererably under tar paper too) then put the tac strip for siding back where it was mow on that piece of azek. For the top use piece of 5/4 azek(or similar material) butg it up to top most point of wall int roof with the bottom inside corner dadoed so the siding goes under it. Hope u can understand and I hope it helps

mikem201 02-13-2013 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kaschmid3 (Post 1116052)
Any pics hard to envision. Is there an overhang, exposed rafter tails. Old school roofing and siding used to be put up that way with bridging ( or 1x4) for cedar shakes do there was somewhere to nail

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Originally Posted by kaschmid3 (Post 1116302)
Yes for the bottom try putting apiece of 1/4 in azek (or similar material) so that it goes past the slab and also past the vinyl(prefererably under tar paper too) then put the tac strip for siding back where it was mow on that piece of azek. For the top use piece of 5/4 azek(or similar material) butg it up to top most point of wall int roof with the bottom inside corner dadoed so the siding goes under it. Hope u can understand and I hope it helps

azek is not flashing though. I meant like a drip edge under the bottom course of siding?

woodworkbykirk 02-13-2013 03:02 PM

i think he means to have the azec to act as something that will cover both the wall sheathing and the joint in the foundation.. then the drip edge or flashing sits on that.. its a common detail and gives a bit of a shadow line.. as long as the azec is set into a bead of caulking , shouldnt be any issue


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