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artsandcraft 03-09-2012 02:57 PM

upvc fascias and cladding
 
This is from UK, but I am looking for an opinion on a principle.

Our board (6 buildings and 50 flats) wants to replace stained wood fascias and cladding with white upvc. They have begun and it is as ugly as it gets. I feel they are diminishing the value of the property. They were advised to do so from the installer under the idea that the brown upvc with show orange stains with time.

Would anyone knows if there is a good quality brown upvc which will not deteriorate, or actually any other easy-to-care-for material for fascias and cladding with which to replace wood?

Many thanks!

woodworkbykirk 03-09-2012 06:25 PM

white upvc??? are you talking about azek.. if so the orange staining their talking about is from nails bleeding.. their using the wrong type of nail.. with azek and like material you HAVE to use stainless steel nails... the pamplets for the product say you can use galvonized air gun nails but they still bleed... we found out the hard way on a large azec job 4 years ago.. we fixed what was there by cleaning out the filler on the nail holes and using epoxy filler. but since then we use senco stainless steel pins for the 15 gauge. or just use stainless steel ring shank hand nails

artsandcraft 03-09-2012 07:42 PM

No, they are using white upvc instead of brown, under the pretext that the brown will show orange stains with time. My question is whether there exists a fascia product that is brown and that will remain brown with time.

Tom Struble 03-09-2012 08:00 PM

here you can only get pvc trim in white,so i would guess your installer is probably right

joecaption 03-09-2012 08:16 PM

No clue why in the UK it's called UPVC, in the US it's called PVC.
PVC can be painted with acrilic laytex paint any color you want.
PVC is forever, will not rot and insects can not eat it.
There is a company that makes a tan composite I'll try and get a name for you.
It can be installed with stainless steel trim head screws instead of nails, no rust and the screws hold better.

artsandcraft 03-09-2012 08:25 PM

Now, JoeCaption, what you write is quite interesting: you tell that PVC can be painted with acrylic. Would you happen to know if this paint will be as permanent as the PVC itself, or nearly so, or if it may deteriorate with time, under sunlight for example.
Also, is there any other synthetic products beyond PVC, if brown PVC is not durable enough?


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