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Old 03-13-2013, 02:08 PM   #1
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I have a very small bathroom (4x10) in my basement which contains a toilet, pedestal sink, and small stall shower. The outer wall is the cinderblock foundation and below ground level. The previous owner had a suspended ceiling with metal framework and office-type ceiling tiles. Over time with a shower, the framework rusted and and tiles were stained. It was not very pretty. I gutted the room and would like to install a drywall ceiling. The major problem is that the joists above supporting the main level have pipes that hang below joist level. (See pic).

I would like to frame the room out with a dropped ceiling for drywall. The easiest thing to do would be to attach a ledger board on the concrete wall and hang 2x6s parallel to the existing joists. The span isn't that large (about 4') but I'm concerned about attaching a ledger board to a hollow concrete block wall to support all that weight on one end. I can think of 2 other options...

--Notch 2x10s or 2x12s and let most of it hang on the foundation wall. Sister new joists to existing joists and hopefully clear the pipes below.

--A third option would be to sandwich the new joists in an upside down "T" using pieces of 2x4 or 2x6 and hang from joist above. Nail or bolt the hangar boards to the joist above.

Again...I'm not supporting major loads here, just a drywall ceiling. But I don't want it cracking or coming down on someone's head!! Solution ideas welcomed!!! Thanks!!!!

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I don't have experience with hollow concrete blocks so I can't say for sure if mounting a ledger board on them would be a good/bad idea. I would tend to think that it wouldn't be that big of a deal with the small load you're talking about, but it's probably overkill in my opinion. I think your other ideas would work but if it were me this it what I'd do.

I'm guessing those water pipes don't stick below the joist more than an inch or so? If that's the case I'd just lay some 2x4's on the flat perpendicular against the joists. (see pic below) Sink a couple 3 or 4" screws through them into the joists and it should hold plenty. I think that's less work than your other ideas, but if you're like me, you'll end up doing whatever you like the most.

Which ever you decide on, good luck.


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I didn't think this approach would work but I doubled up on 2x3s and screwed them into each joist...running in the same direction. The 2nd 2x3 was needed to clear the thick black pipe (a gas line). I boxed around the shower drains.

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Problem solved. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
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Looks good. Nice job w/ the plate over the piping.
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you got that done fast
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What are you going to do if a pipe starts leaking and needs to be fixed/replaced? Hard to do that with drywall installed.
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What are you going to do if a pipe starts leaking and needs to be fixed/replaced? Hard to do that with drywall installed.
Uhh...you could say that about any house. Pipe leaks, tear apart the wall, fix pipe, fix wall.
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I have not been in a basement yet thats had drywall ceilings. You can get ceiling tiles that dont stain at all.
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All I'm saying is its not that big of a deal. Lots of multi story houses have pipes above drywall ceilings. I'm the type that would never even finish their basement so I'm not sure why I'm even chiming in. I will agree that most finished basements I've been in have some kind of removable ceiling tiles.

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