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Old 06-23-2012, 02:27 PM   #31
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Sorry what's 40ll and 15dl? stand for?
40 lbs per sq. foot live load (people and things you put on the deck)

15 lbs per sq. foot dead load (the weight of the structure itself, beams, railings, deck finish etc).

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Old 06-23-2012, 02:32 PM   #32
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My only question sannitig is how fare above your concrete footing is the bottom of the 5/8 nut holding the 1'' plate? Like... Do you have 1'' from top of footing to the nut or? My only reason asking is if you aren't that far along with your DIY project, place 2 5/8'' nuts underneath the bottom of the 1'' plate.
That's what I was thinking but father and law said not needed....out its semi built today....could I use a split nut just cause it would be a ***** to take off a joist off now
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How much space is there? I could come up with an alternative if I know how much space is actually there.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:38 PM   #34
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That's what I was thinking but father and law said not needed....out its semi built today....could I use a split nut just cause it would be a ***** to take off a joist off now
Is he an engineer?
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There is now 4-5 inches from the bottom of the beam to the top of the concrete....it's quite a bit I know....no he's no engineer....
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Yikes ! I understand your footing is 3' deep. How wide is it? and how far does your all thread rod go into the footing?
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Bad idea, that rod won't support the lateral load applied to it.
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the concrete is 8 inches wide and the rod goes 2 feet down into it.

I didn't plan for that much space between the concrete in the bottom of the bean but I had to make some changes and now there is excess space.

how to the deck is ledger get to the houseAs well...
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uggh... So you only have 2 sq.ft. of concrete then.. hmmmm.. Is the all thread at least galvanized?
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And are you asking how to attach the ledger to the house? or are you asking how to attach the joist to the ledger?
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threaded rod is stainless steel

sorry about the ledger question it was really a question it was my spellcheck I just wanted to mention there was a ledger
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It still won't support the lateral load applied to the deck, if you want to continue this project just remember that it may fail at some point and possibly injure people. So in other words I recommend you STOP what you are doing and start over with conventional methods, there is a reason this is not a conventional method.
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Samdig,

You've been asked two questions already that you have avoided. Have you spoken to your building department and is your father in law an engineer?

Do you need permits and inspections for what you're doing?
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I don't understand the lateral load portion of the argument...

how can there be any lateral load when its lag bolted to the house....gravity is a downward force and I'm not planning to have 50 guys tyring to pull the deck from the ledger

it would take a lot of force to to get 7 stainless steel rods to sheer right off.

I'm sorry about the arguing but it's just not adding up. The framing is up and we had 3 guys placing lateral load on it by trying to push it sideways...it didn't move...maybe I have no idea what lateral load means....

I'm really grateful for EVERYONES input on this matter by the way..seriously all of you are great people!
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Samdig,

You've been asked two questions already that you have avoided. Have you spoken to your building department and is your father in law an engineer?

Do you need permits and inspections for what you're doing?
Sorry no I have not gotten any permits and he is not an engineer as he does not have a ring but he is pretty close to one. I would say he is a mechanical eng. As he build machines. He build all sorts is machines from million dollar printing presses to custom machines for smaller clients

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