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Old 01-08-2015, 05:27 PM   #1
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This rail is not as secure as it could be - when pressing on it, it bends out. It could be the post on the outside is not well secured to the brick. Or, it could be the post sitting on top of the brick should be attached.

My first thought was to cut out the rails to the near post, bolt one of those metal plates to the brick and attach with cement anchors, set the post on the plate, and reattach the rails.

Does this sound like a good idea?
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This rail is not as secure as it could be - when pressing on it, it bends out. It could be the post on the outside is not well secured to the brick. Or, it could be the post sitting on top of the brick should be attached.

My first thought was to cut out the rails to the near post, bolt one of those metal plates to the brick and attach with cement anchors, set the post on the plate, and reattach the rails.

Does this sound like a good idea?
Ayuh,... Or you could screw a short metal tab onto the front lower bottom of the post with screws, 'n the other end of the tab tap-coned into the brick face under it,....

Steel angle brackets could be used, screwed, 'n tap-coned,...

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It could be the post on the outside is not well secured to the brick.
Bingo.....If the outside post and the post at the bottom of the stairs are solid then the post you pictured isn't going anywhere. Any topside attachments you may try at the base of that post won't solve the problem.
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So it sounds like a couple long Tapcon screws through the side posts into the brick porch would be my first try. I could also use brackets as first suggested, I'm just not crazy about it aesthetically.
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Trying to attach post to a brick step like that almost never works, and the post rot out.
They should have been installed no Strong Tie post bases.
I use post set in concrete on the outside of the steps.
In your case if you used aluminum angle with at least 3, Tap cons per side and added PVC lumber as post bases with vinyl cove moulding or vinyl base cap moulding to deflect the water way from the base cap and cover up the aluminum angle it would look OK.
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Knowing what's beneath the brick is half the battle.?
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Knowing what's beneath the brick is half the battle.?
I'd say more than half....Once you have the answer to that question the solution spells itself out.
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Why do you say that? Im not going to be going all the way through the brick..... dont get it.....
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I wouldn't trust brick as an attachment point for a guard rail for all of the same reasons we don't attach deck ledgers to brick either.
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So are you saying I would want to drill all the way through the brick and into the concrete/cinder block inside? That would require quite a long anchor bolt - do they make them that long?
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Myself anyway can not give you a solution based on that picture, too many variables.

Don't know the condition of the brick, Is the block hollow or filled?

The corner post appears to be notched, how much meat is left? How far down does it go, one brick or to the ground?

How much movement are we really talking about here?

When it does move, whats actually moving, loose fasteners, split post at the notch, is the brick moving with it?

Or is the corner solid and the post at the top of the stairs is just lifting?

What's the budget?

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