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Old 12-26-2011, 09:22 PM   #16
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Looks like knob and tube in the first picture.
It also looks like galvonaved pipe that is clogged.
No way this house is fromm 2003.
That's not galvinized pipe, that's scorched/painted ABS, and those "clogs" are pieces of glued together cardboard and rubber. We removed plastic "caps" that the previous HO soldered onto the ends.
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That's not galvinized pipe, that's scorched ABS, with painted brass fittings on the ends. (No joke)
WHERE!!!?? Please show me, inquiring minds are wanting to know. That Black DWV you see in the first picture has glue that was not wiped, which is the yellow you see. No where do I see scorched ABS with painted brass fittings. Maybe I should get my glasses checked, but I am smelling a whole lot of BS here Bigguy01. That is all retro work on a house that I am going to place anywhere from 70 to 80 years old at least, maybe 90 at the most.

Oh, and make sure that you had face masks on, due to there is a whole bunch of Asbestos that I also noticed in those pictures. You basically can not touch anything without bringing in an abatement crew, but hey who is to tell you, you know everything. Have fun listening to yourself tonight, because I am going to bed.
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you use WIRES to hold up joists in WA?





There's nothing wrong with supporting your wiring even when going through studs. Just because you don't have to, doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't.



OK, I'll give ya that one.......that's not good, but it is fixable without rewiring the whole house.....

What's wrong with the plumbing??
Some pipes are blocked form the inside of them. Other pipes aren't connected to anything at all, some pipes have pieces of cardboard and rubber glued into them. Some sinks don't have p traps.

He painted ABS tubing in random spots we have no way of identifying why.

Staples are driven too far into wires.

Switches and receptles are nto properly wired, breakers are not properly labeled, lights aren't wired correctly, there are no GFCIs in the home, and in some places in the walls there is conduit run against the studs, and NOT connected to anything, just anchored in place, with no wires in them for no apparent reason.

We have no idea WTF the previous HO was doing, and the city wants everything int he home reworked before the certification for occupancy is allowed back for the house.

It's a $200,000 house that the city will not let anyone physically live in until it's fixed.
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I am going to check in to see how much he hangs himself tonight, after I get home for lunch from work tomorrow. This should make the end of the year well worth it.
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I find myself looking for his BS for entertainment......so I must tell MYself

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there is conduit run against the studs, and NOT connected to anything, just anchored in place, with no wires in them for no apparent reason.
I just got SCHOOLED....I didn't realize having empty conduit installed was illegal.
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WHERE!!!?? Please show me, inquiring minds are wanting to know. That Black DWV you see in the first picture has glue that was not wiped, which is the yellow you see. No where do I see scorched ABS with painted brass fittings. Maybe I should get my glasses checked, but I am smelling a whole lot of BS here Bigguy01. That is all retro work on a house that I am going to place anywhere from 70 to 80 years old at least, maybe 90 at the most.

Oh, and make sure that you had face masks on, due to there is a whole bunch of Asbestos that I also noticed in those pictures. You basically can not touch anything without bringing in an abatement crew, but hey who is to tell you, you know everything. Have fun listening to yourself tonight, because I am going to bed.
It's not asbestos, it's caulking. Another thing the previous home owner randomly did we have no F*ing clue why.

Already had a city inspector go through, there was nothing on it that mentioned asbestos.

Those rusted fittings on the abs, those are broken up/painted brass fittings.
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I just got SCHOOLED....I didn't realize having empty conduit installed was illegal.
It's not, just doens't make sense WTF the previous HO was doing.

NOTHING in this house makes sense.

Title says 2003 was the year the home was built.

ABS is discolored in parts because of random paint.

That's why there is glue visible. In random connections brass was used, which in most cases the brass has corroded, no idea why.

The white chaulky stuff is caulking. Not asbestos.

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He painted ABS tubing in random spots we have no way of identifying why
Doesn't matter why....it's not illegal to paint plumbing pipes, AFAIK.
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Those rusted fittings on the abs, those are broken up/painted brass fittings
OK, see ya almost had me believing the hype........ok, not really, but still.....

There is no way there are brass fittings on ABS pipe.....and by the way, brass don't rust
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Doesn't matter why....it's not illegal to paint plumbing pipes, AFAIK.
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OK, see ya almost had me believing the hype........ok, not really, but still.....

There is no way there are brass fittings on ABS pipe.....and by the way, brass don't rust

We know it's not illegal to paint pipes etc. It's WHY the Home owner randomly painted spots that doesn't make sense.

And FYI Brass rusts if you use solvents on it. Which is why we are thinking it's rusted.

Previous homeowner, used brass fittings for his ABS piping.

In completely random fittings on his piping, he has brass fittings. He also used ABS fittings and what looked like super glue to do the DWV in the master bathroom sink.

The Plumber who I'll be working with to redo the Plumbing, even said some of the fittings were brass, connected to the ABS. It's what the previous home owner did, with no reasoning on why the previous home owner did it. Nothing in this house was done by a Licensed Tradesmen. It's all DIY.

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Sorry.....you have no idea what you're looking at.....find me a GOOD, CLOSE picture of a brass fitting on an ABS pipe. Surely in those 75 or whatever pictures, you have one.
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This is underneath the kitchen sink..........

That's water damage from leaks we have no idea how long.



What else do you see wrong with this photo?
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Sorry.....you have no idea what you're looking at.....find me a GOOD, CLOSE picture of a brass fitting on an ABS pipe. Surely in those 75 or whatever pictures, you have one.
I'm pretty sure a Plumber who has more than 36 years in Plumbing knows what he's looking at.

I'll see if I have a better pic of the brass fitting.

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THe Electrician who was with us, told us that the Electrical box in the photo above, wasn't connected to anything. It was just nailed in place, and left there for no apparent reason.
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