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brockmiera 02-13-2013 10:51 AM

Tiling Shower Walls Help
 
Ok so here is the situation. I am renovating a basement bathroom. I took it down to nothing and have built it up. The shower will be two framed walls and one exterior concrete wall.

the previous owner had taken mastic right to the concrete walls and attached the tiles. I scraped it all off with the thought that I would do 1/2" XPS, Kerdi liner over that and tile directly to that.

The reason I want to do this instead of framing a wall there is because of space. I dont have an extra 4" because of where the toilet flange is set and I dont want to move the toilet if I dont have to.

I got to thinking last night while I was looking at the xps. Will the tile cause the XPS to separate from the wall?

What do the experts think I should do?

brockmiera 02-13-2013 10:54 AM

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brockmiera 02-13-2013 01:23 PM

One thought I had was to attach a few 1x3's to the concrete wall thru the XPS. I dont know if I need them but I'd sure hate to have that nice tile start pulling away from the concrete wall.

drtbk4ever 02-13-2013 01:53 PM

I am just guessing, but I don't think you would get any longevity by tiling directly onto the xps.

Could you put the 1X3's on the wall, tapconed thru the xps to the concrete, then apply concrete backer board to the 1X3s, then do the tiling?

Again, I'm just guessing. Hopefully my silly ideas will bring out an expert or two.

brockmiera 02-13-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by drtbk4ever (Post 1116565)
I am just guessing, but I don't think you would get any longevity by tiling directly onto the xps.

Could you put the 1X3's on the wall, tapconed thru the xps to the concrete, then apply concrete backer board to the 1X3s, then do the tiling?

Again, I'm just guessing. Hopefully my silly ideas will bring out an expert or two.

Yeah for some reason I thought that glue would be enough. Maybe because of how amazingly hard it was to get those other tiles off the wall. But I think you are right.

I'll probably end up using 1x3's and framing the wall.

In order to keep the wall to a minimum thickness, do you think I can get away with 1/4" backerboard?

drtbk4ever 02-13-2013 02:38 PM

We need Bud or Jazman to comment on that.

brockmiera 02-13-2013 03:09 PM

No joke. Where is Jazman when you need him.

drtbk4ever 02-13-2013 03:35 PM

I sent him a PM to ensure he shares his thoughts with us when he logs on.

joecaption 02-13-2013 04:42 PM

No way is tile going to work out just stuck to foam!

brockmiera 02-13-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1116640)
No way is tile going to work out just stuck to foam!

Ok thats three votes against my original thought. :thumbsup: How now should I go about fixing it?

Do you think 1x3's tapcon'd to the concrete wall and nailed to the sill plate will work as framing?

drtbk4ever 02-13-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption
No way is tile going to work out just stuck to foam!

Come on Joe, provide some ideas please.

JazMan 02-13-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by brockmiera
No joke. Where is Jazman when you need him.

Here I is! :laughing::wink:

If you fir out, You may want to go thicker than 1x3" It's only 3/4 thick.

But.......how about Kerdi Board?????? It's made for just this type of job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oV1riVyU0w

Take a look. This should solve your problems.

Jaz

brockmiera 02-13-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JazMan (Post 1116699)
JazMan

Thats all we get today???

drtbk4ever 02-13-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazMan (Post 1116699)
Here I is! :laughing::wink:

If you fir out, You may want to go thicker than 1x3" It's only 3/4 thick.

But.......how about Kerdi Board?????? It's made for just this type of job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oV1riVyU0w

Take a look. This should solve your problems.

Jaz


See, I knew we needed Jazman's help.

JazMan 02-13-2013 07:02 PM

Also try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca1-t0Os4wo

Jaz


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