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zmurphy 06-21-2007 12:43 PM

Tile over Sheetrock
 
Hey guys, this is my first post here on this great forum. i did some searching on here but nothing answered my ?'s.

we have a gas fireplace that is a main focal point in our living room. it is surrounded by sheetrock that continues up 12' to a cathederal ceiling. we want to either use stone veneer or tile to cover the sheetrock surrounding the fireplace.

I have some ?'s, hopefully you guys can help:
1. would be ok to use some type of construction adhesive to install the veneer or the tile or neither?

2. if it ok, is there a particular adhesive i should use (ex. Gorilla Glue)?

3. if it is NOT ok, what would be the correct way to install the tile or veneer?


the reason i ask these ?'s is, i saw on a home theater website, a guy used construction adhesive to install the stone veneer (from this company)
http://www.culturedstone.com/products/stone.asp
here is what it looks like
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&page=3&pp=30

it looks great and sounds easy to install this way, with it being inside and away from moisture, is it ok ot do this?

thanks for your help!

rgmetro 06-21-2007 12:49 PM

shouldn't be a problem. the only time you need to use the correct adhesive like thinset / backerboard is when moisture is involved.

construction glue will more than do the trick.

me, personally, i would still use thinset on the wall...seems it would be easier and quicker to put up the tile/stones.

zmurphy 06-21-2007 12:58 PM

thanks for the quick reply. is there a decent website or inof on here to using "thinset". i am pretty new to home improvements, but i can follow directions. thanks again.

AtlanticWBConst. 06-21-2007 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmurphy (Post 49951)
thanks for the quick reply. is there a decent website or inof on here to using "thinset". i am pretty new to home improvements, but i can follow directions. thanks again.

(Actually there are other reasons for using thinset as your tile adhesive beyond moisture areas)

Read up on using thinset and other tiling tips:

http://www.thetiledoctor.com/howto/floorsinterior.cfm

http://www.johnbridge.com/

WNYcarpenter 06-21-2007 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst. (Post 49987)
(Actually there are other reasons for using thinset as your tile adhesive beyond moisture areas)

Read up on using thinset and other tiling tips:

http://www.thetiledoctor.com/howto/floorsinterior.cfm

http://www.johnbridge.com/

You have an incredible amount of patience! or an extremely dry sense of humor:thumbsup:

clasact 06-22-2007 05:15 AM

Thanks for the link Atlantic that Kerdi system is just what I have been asking around for but know one around here seams to know what I am talking about

RippySkippy 06-22-2007 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clasact (Post 50022)
... Kerdi system is just what I have been asking around for but know one around here seams to know what I am talking about

I can feel your pain! Local inquires about Kerdi were joined by the "deer in the head lights look" and nothing. If you go the Kerdi route, I would highly recommend the Tile-Experts.com, very knowledgeable, and don't try to oversell their products.

If you need installation support, or have questions about Schluter products, their customer support is awesome.

Follow Atlantic's link to JohnBridge forum...the stuff you can learn from others is incredible, and it seems to be a pretty friendly group of people.

NateHanson 06-22-2007 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by zmurphy (Post 49947)
2. if it ok, is there a particular adhesive i should use (ex. Gorilla Glue)?

I definitely wouldn't consider Gorilla glue for this job. There's no way the stone would stay on the wall while it cured, and I'm not sure it would stay for long even after it cured. I don't think of Gorilla glue as a "construction adhesive". It's a polyurethane glue.

Liquid Nails is a construction adhesive. I believe most of those are polyurethane sealants, and they behave very differently from a hard glue designed for porous surfaces.

Ron6519 06-22-2007 12:11 PM

I would not put stone veneer on the sheetrock. It's an inappropriate substrate not strong enough to support the stone. You would need plywood with a diamond lath or cementboard.
Ron

zmurphy 06-23-2007 03:45 PM

thanks for all the help. i did some reading on those reccommended sites. it looks like we'll be using wall tile, some 1/4" backer board and some variation of thinset. now i just have to figure out which one we want. thanks again guys!


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