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Old 09-08-2010, 07:34 AM   #1
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Can I use a sheet of T111 as roofing on a small shed with 24" oc 2x4 rafters.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:12 AM   #2
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As roofing ? ....or sheathing ?
What are you going to cover it with ?

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Old 09-08-2010, 09:36 AM   #3
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Daves questions are very pertinent. It would also be good to know where you are. Is this off the road far enough. Reason I ask is if it ever snows to any degree where you are simple 2X4's aren't going to make it as rafters. "7 day snow load" would be a good thing to google as it would bring you to some form of code - possibly BOCA - which lays it all out pretty well as to what the "minimum" requirement would be were you in an area where you have "building codes" -- Which leads me to the other part of that question. If you're repairing or replacing something on your property, most codes, even those in some municipalities where they are pretty strict, allow you to do your own work without a permit or even inspection process. Span & pitch of roof are also key to knowing what is not only "doable" but also SAFE. Picture is worth thousand words Are these 2X4s trusses and how thick is the T 111?
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:27 AM   #4
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T1-11 is a structural siding, not a sheathing for a roof because of the grooves. Cannot be used for roofing exposed material or roof sheathing. 2x4 rafters at 24"o.c. will span 7'2"- IRC and 7'10" UBC with no snow load.

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Thanks a bunch for your quick response. I won't be using it for roofing as per all your great input.
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Guys need ideas to roof the small 4'wide x 8' long shed. Don't want to use heavy roof sheathing it will only house bicycles. Seeking something light weight.

Thanks again for info re T111/roofing.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:04 PM   #7
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Flat roof...sloped ?
Location ?....snow load ?
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Scuba - Sloped roof. 6' high side, down to 5.5 lower side. 4' width 8' length in Brewster, NY.

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Old 09-08-2010, 02:20 PM   #9
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So a simple shed roof that slopes to one side:



With 24" OC I'd use one sheet of 4x8 plywood 5/8 thick
Then cover it with rolled roofing...36" wide
2 rows overlapping should do it

Tar paper should be used also...that will be another $15
Drip edges another $12
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Since this is a simple dry area shed and snow is not an issue, consider metal roofing. You'd have to run firring across the 2X4s and it would likely be 2X2s or 5/4 X3. that would be for anchoring screws into . Look at a ehowdot com to see if this is something you could tackle. There are several other synthetic roofings which are ideal for low pitch short roofs such as this. A really easy to use product is onduline - i used it for a similar application years ago in baltimore and after 25 years - i was visiting my buddy and it still looked great. I'm sure there are a host of other products out there. Main thing is be safe, which is why I sort of hesitate now on metal.
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If you go Dave's way, use double coverage on the material--- 18" lap (buying a roll, anyway) and "exterior" grade (ink stamp) sheathing for outdoor use. A few book parts to get you started: http://books.google.com/books?ei=8h0...ofing&as_brr=3

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Since this is a simple dry area shed and snow is not an issue, consider metal roofing
I think Brewster New York gets snow....maybe I'm wrong
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Guys, once again so much great information. Been on line all evening checking out metal, vs. OSB vs plywood.

We do get snow in Winter, just depends sometimes quite a bit.

I liked the drawing of the shed it's exactly what I'm doing. At the top of the shed (the tallest side) what do you suggest for flashing since tall side is attached to an existing shed.

I think because of snow the plywood is a better choice along with roof roll, I wouldn't need very much of it, and insofar as tar paper, where/how would I use that? Should I also use roof roll/tar paper on the shed itself, since that is being used as the back wall of the 4x8 shed?

Thanks everyone, I know these questions must sound foolish to most of you, but I cannot afford to hire someone.

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Trish, I was affraid of the snow thing. Dear - you must understand that the weight of a substantial wet snow will most likely cause this structure to fail - collapse. That could quite easily happen when you or a child were in or near it. Given that the raftering is merely 2X4 - 24" OC - At this point I will only recommend that you place sufficient raftering beside the existing 2X4s. The 2X4s can remain, and if they are secured well, you can actually screw (using a minimum of 2 1/2" allweather screws) the 2X6s right to the 2X4s - this is called "sistering." I don't have my code book handy but I would check to see if 2X6 is sufficient. Most codes I have dealt with are written considering worst case conditions. So - If it is possible that you might have a storm that dumps nearly 3 ft. of snow on you, 2X6 @ 24" OC might not be sufficient.
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The old part of my pool cabana has 2x4's 24" OC
But they only span about 5'
Its been there for a looong time, thru the blizzard of '78
So spanning 4' really isn't much of a problem

The new part of my pool cabana has 2x10's 16" OC
....the old rafters from my 2nd floor

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