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Old 09-21-2010, 07:23 AM   #1
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Hi, I was replacing my front screen door last night, and mortar along the door frame started falling off.

My 75-year old house is brick, but the front door has rough stone inset around the frame held in place with mortar.

I inspected, and noticed that the mortar/cement from a previous repair was super brittle and literally crumbling at the slightest touch.

The original sanded and tan-colored(lime?) is still in good shape.

I was wondering, after I'm done removing the crumbling mortar, should I apply a cement-type epoxy or hydralic cement?

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The best thing to fill the gap between a timber frame and masonry is burnt sand mastic.
http://masonsmortar.co.uk/site/burnt-sand-mastic.htm

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Old 09-21-2010, 08:28 AM   #3
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Is this something I can get at one of the box stores or do I need to special order? I've never heard of it before. Is there anything else I could use?

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You can make it yourself by heating up sand and adding linseed oil. You can also use a frame sealant, or mix up some lime mortar.
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Ok, I just looked at the stone again, and it is actually NOT touching the wooden door frame. There is a 1/2" gap between the wooden door frame and the stone. The stone is mortared to the brick behind it.

So I guess I can just use normal brick epoxy or should I use Hydraulic cement?

Some of the cement will be vertical, so it will need to set fast so it doesn't run out.

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hydraulic is fine. or you can use regular mortar mix. its designed for brick/tuck pointing. just make sure you stuff it in there
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there should be a sealant 'tween the frame & any masonary work however a mason wouldn't normally even know this as its restoration mason's work, not a reg brickie,,, that's probably why the ' gap ',,, hydraulic cement's absolutely the WRONG mtl,,, properly mixed, regular mortar can be applied vertically & even overhead.

no idea what ' normal brick epoxy ' or ANY brick epoxy is !
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sorry, I was just inventing the term 'normal brick epoxy'

So a firm NO on hydraulic cement, and a YES for regular mortar.

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