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Old 02-23-2014, 09:59 AM   #1
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Hi!

I've posted this in the masonry forum, and after awhile, I think it may had been the wrong place to post. I also didn't know what I was talking about at the time, where I now feel a little more knowledgable.

I have a brick 1st story and a sided 2nd story. There's a "stone cap" that sits on top of the brick where the transition is from the brick to siding. In one place, the stone cap is starting to fall off and something needs to be done to fix it. I'm afraid that it's going to fall off and damage something underneath it.

Are these 'stone caps' just held in place by gravity? Should they be attached to something? In order to fix this, do I just push it back into place and not worry about it?

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Stone caps like that are usually mortared in place. You will probably need to remove it, clean out any old loose mortar and re-set it.

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Can you shoot a picture from further back?
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Here's a shot zoomed out. I'll take another one looking under it later today.

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You're going to get better answers from people in the masonry forum than you are here. The luminaire have a lot more knowledge about masonry problems and will give you a much better long-term solution.
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Msradell, you are correct. At first, the Masonry forum was kind of quiet and felt like I didn't really get great advice, that's why I came here.

Another user responded today about it. To make a long story short, turns out that it's just kind of cemented up there with mortar. They suggest taking it completely off, scraping all the existing mortar off, then relaying it back in.
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Msradell, you are correct. At first, the Masonry forum was kind of quiet and felt like I didn't really get great advice, that's why I came here.

Another user responded today about it. To make a long story short, turns out that it's just kind of cemented up there with mortar. They suggest taking it completely off, scraping all the existing mortar off, then relaying it back in.
That'd be the best way, IMHO, to do the repair (remove the existing mortar and laying on new mortar).

Besides moving the ladder around (looks pretty high) the outside weather may be a problem. Not so much the temperature but that the air is too dry.

If you have any liquid nails, a couple of dabs may work to keep it place until you can get it.
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Thanks, that's a good tip. It is pretty high; my 18' extension ladder won't reach it. I live around Chicago so it's still in the 20's on good days.

I think that is the general consensus; get it pushed back into place and worry more about it later. My primary concern is that it's going to fall off as it's on the end and it's just kind of wedged in for now. Right below it is where the satellite dish is, a/c, and electrical. If it were to fall, it would be bad.
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My hack way would be to use PL Premium Advanced.
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Thanks, that's a good tip. It is pretty high; my 18' extension ladder won't reach it. I live around Chicago so it's still in the 20's on good days.

I think that is the general consensus; get it pushed back into place and worry more about it later. My primary concern is that it's going to fall off as it's on the end and it's just kind of wedged in for now. Right below it is where the satellite dish is, a/c, and electrical. If it were to fall, it would be bad.

I know about the weather there. Every time I call my mom (Glendale Heights) she ask me about the weather here (Virginia) and tells me I'm lucky.
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Are you sure that's concrete and not lumber.?
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Yup. We determined that it's some sort of a limestone. It's definitely not lumber (or composite).
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Caps can be made from limestone, marble, and even granite. If I remember correctly there is a special type of mortar used to adhere cap stone to brick. I just can't remember what is is. Maybe if you do a search online for mortar types to fasten cap stone to brick it may give you in the correct source.
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That cap stone is formed.

It was poured into a mold either in longer lengths and cut to size or sold in that dimension.
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As I typed in the other thread, that sill certainly appears to be Indiana Bedford stone, which is cut out of the ground in massive chunks and cut down to size for many different uses, including sills, hearthstones, water tables, bands, wall caps, etc......

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