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Old 05-29-2013, 08:10 PM   #16
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Thanks for your suggestions. Have changed from 8pm, to mid afternoon when she is I hope, at work. She is one of those impossible people who
seems to lay in wait for something to complain about. We had this generator for 2 years and she just noticed we had it. Our bad. We do offer our power to our neighbors. We are old and need to keep our house on power for Husband. We have big old trees and power overhead pretty, but they come down often. Other neighbors are great, thank goodness. EAW
Single lady, probably a busy body at work, in everyone's business, complains about everything, no husband or boyfriend around kind of people.

As for the test run, yes it should be done during the daytime hours, say around lunch time on the weekends, or around 10am.

Just get together with the other neighbors with chainsaws, power mowers, generators, and all of you turn them on at the same time every couple of weeks. Maybe then she will get the message that she is going to lose this one.

Even better, invite one of the local bands to come over and practice in your garage every Saturday afternoon, say 2 or 4. Preferably a Christian Rock band that also plays album covers of country, pop, classic rock, that should help her get the message that you are not backing down.

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Old 05-29-2013, 08:18 PM   #17
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I said that we had the generator for 2 1/2 years. We live with awful polution from big hyways and everyone keeps therir windows closed. Okay never thought 8pm was bad, since she cuts her grass about that time in hot weather, I do not complain. Her dog get through fences and go on my lawn, I do not complain, she and her child have knock down drag out fights, verbal, outside, I do not complain, all these things occure for a short time and any normal person would understand that it is part of life. You cannot enjoy your yard with her, she is at everyone's neck. You sound rather like you have a problem with normal life yourself. I have walked in your shoes.
You should not assume your life is or was harder than anyone elses. Maybe soon you will have to walk in my shoes and see how you like it. I hope with a more pleasent attitude, I've learned being nice is a much better way in the long run. I did not relize I was bothering anyone and when I did then I corrected the problem. I doubt this will alter her attitude or this will alter yours. But Thanks for your input. EAW
Every time her dog takes a dump in your yard, bag it, and place on her doorstep. Her and the kid get in a fight, call the police. If she starts calling the police because your generator is running during times that are not considered quiet hours, which they cannot really enforce if someone has a medical condition in a residence, if they require a generator, which you can have the doctor your husband sees, write up enough paperwork, that if the witch next door tries to take you to court, she will lose.

Also print up the city ordinances regarding noise & noise levels. Then get a noise meter and go over to her house, with her permission, take a reading of how loud the generator is, to show her what decibel level it is running at.

If she still wants to fight her, tell her to get a lawyer and take you to court regarding this, and also have record of every time she and the kid have fights, and the cops have to show up to quiet them down.

Fight fire with fire. If you have a HOA, get them involved. If not, good reason to get the other neighbors together and start one, then you have rules that she will have to follow, and the set rules of how and when generators will be used, will be spelled out in writing.
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Not trying to be a pain, just looking at it from both sides of the fence. It does sound like she is a B**ch though. Simple enough to just talk to your neighbors. Does not make sense to have an adversarial relationship with people you might need some day. You never know whats bothering her though, some people have had a tough go of it.
Did u not read her post about the way this neighbor acts?
Also, your WAY out of line to be calling an older woman or Any woman for that matter the B word!
Very disrespectful!
You should apologize!
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Did u not read her post about the way this neighbor acts?
Also, your WAY out of line to be calling an older woman or Any woman for that matter the B word!
Very disrespectful!
You should apologize!
Most likely not, like some others on here have a habit of not reading through the whole thread, before shooting off the hip.
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Did u not read her post about the way this neighbor acts?
Also, your WAY out of line to be calling an older woman or Any woman for that matter the B word!
Very disrespectful!
You should apologize!
I was talking about the B**ch that called the police on the original poster. I think they understood that. After the subsequent posts where we found out that the lady that called the police lets her dog crap on everyone lawn and argues with her spawn on the front lawn, I think I would probably test my civil war re-enactment 6 pounder on the front lawn with the muzzle aimed at her house.
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Our generator runs it's test cycle once a week. I've got it set to run at 2pm on Tuesday. My next door neighbor also configured his to run at the same time.
Hey, I am 2pm on Tuesday also! What are the odds?

Actually I don't even hear it in the house; can't imagine anyone complaining about it.
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Hey, I am 2pm on Tuesday also! What are the odds?

Actually I don't even hear it in the house; can't imagine anyone complaining about it.
Some homes are like that. We have no insulation in our walls, hear no road noise, and even barely hear the lawn mower running outside, when my son is mowing, unless we have the storm windows up.

No the neighbor of the OP is just one of those types, that was genetically breed to give others a hard time, and the world revolves around them. I can just imagine how she is to be around at work. Had one of those types in my last office I worked at. My new office, everyone gets along so well, that if we ever do have a problem, our boss has a good habit of knocking heads to set people straight.

Plus he is big enough, he can pick you up with one hand, so you learn to live by his rules, and be a happy family and work together at work, which really should be the way neighbors should be, but you always have those that really should never be allowed in neighborhoods, and belong out in the country, with the nearest neighbor no close than a mile away.
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All wait up. This is about a 12 minute test once a week that has run for over 2 1/2 years and she just found out we had a generator. That problem is solved. I also asked if anyone had an inexpensive way to muffel the sound. Yes, my neighbor over reacted, she over reacts to everything and everyone. Yes, I feel that she has a problem, but she does not live in a country estate, she lives in a tight old neighborhood. She cannot have everything to her way of thinking. I have to live with her backyard to backyard. No this is not about seeing the other persons way, this woman has acrued notice of quite a few people in a most negitive way. I appreciate the kind posts, even the one who was way off the subject, but
it is something I have to deal with and have dealt with for some time. Alas she does not mean to change her way. poor thing. I'm a military wife of 30 years I can shoulder this I've shouldered much in my day.
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Just do not back down, and stand your ground. She will get tired of being a witch, when she finds out that your are tougher than her. Keep everything documented, so if she ever decides to waste her money trying to take you to court, to have it removed, which she cannot, she will end up being the subject of a stern talking by the judge, when she loses.

As for the muffler, they do make some better ones out there. Check with the local farm & home store that has a small engine shop. Give them the make & model # info, and they should be able to find one that has a lower decibel rating. If you have a iPhone or Android phone, you can download free Sound meter apps, and they work just as good as the real thing. Go to the edge of your yard where hers meets yours, while the genset is running, and measure it, then keep walking towards the set, recording the reading at say every ten feet, until you are next to it, and record the final reading.

I could just be that there is something resonating the motor sound louder into her home, that one area makes it sound louder than it actually is, and the fact that she is just a trouble maker, you cannot change that, but you can fight fire with fire.

Now go measure your a/c unit and her's an see what it is compared to the genset, they could end up being no different in readings from the edge of the yards, and again, we are just dealing with that 1% that has nothing to do, but complain about everything.
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Ok -I have a suggestion

(By the way - I did read the entire thread)....
Take your muffler off the generator....
Take the muffler down to a muffler shop and have them build a custom muffler.
The reason you need to take the muffler off is so that they know what the fitting and tube diameters are...
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Hint: A car muffler has a larger tube diameter. They will have to abdicate a tube adapter that expands your generators tube out to fit the automotive muffler diameter.
Hint #2: it would be beneficial to have them install a coupler in-line so that you can change the muffler ( Not that this will be likely -Since an automotive muffler will outlast a portable generator muffler by 10-20 yeas)....
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Automotive mufflers will not over load your generator, the exhaust pressure on a portable generator is much less than most cars/trucks.
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I have three 37Kw 3-Phase generators and three 90Kw generators. They are all configured for grid-tie and stand alone power operation. Naturally, this is an either/ or configuration. The power transfer switches are all manual (with the capability to be set to automatic power transfer)...
My exhaust systems are adapted for silent running (I used dual mufflers that are paralleled. Ie: two mufflers with the exhaust feeding into both and each muffler with separate exhaust ports..... Before the mufflers I opted for a resonator. The resonator virtually eliminates the low frequency sound waves - which are the most penetrating and objectionable sound waves from the tensest. Your generator may not have the excessive low frequency sound waves - to asserts in this you would need to have a muffler tech come out to the house....)...
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By the way - If you go to a muffler shop that tells you it cannot be done - Go to another shop. Also, if they give you a really ridiculous price - again, go to another shop. A custom muffler and piping should boot run over $200-$300 (mine only set me back $740 -and I have six gen sets).
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Hope the suggestion to use an automotive muffler helps resolve your noise issues. Even though you have the problem under control by changing the test times - you still need to consider what will happen when power does go out - and the neighbor becomes the wicked complaining with next door. A gen set running for a longer time than a 10-minute test can get annoying really fast.
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How a commercial generator might be configured is likely to be considerably different than a small residential unit. Quite often they're built to fit inside an enclosure. One built both for looks and for safety.

A commercial generator setup is often installed inside it's own chain-link fence. So putting hot exhaust fixtures on them, out in the open, doesn't present much of a risk.

But on a small residential unit a few feet from the house you'd be creating the possibility for someone to get seriously injured if they came in contact with the cobbled together assembly you're suggesting. Not unless the enclosure was altered or a large fence was constructed around it. I know this because I have a 20kw unit and adding a muffler to it wouldn't work without big changes to the case and adding a fence (for which I don't have the room).
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This is way beyond my understanding and ability. I thank everyone for their input, I was thinking maybe a baffel of some sort, that can withstand the weather. Trees are a good idea, but take time to grow and not enough room to do this. I'd prefer a brick wall, but that's out of the question, she would sure complain about that. I just need some method of lowering the sound some, complete quiet is out of the question. My next door neighbor does not even hear it when it runs all the time in a power outage. IfI come up with a plan that works you'll be hearing from me.
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You don't actually "need" to do anything. The law allows for the noise it generates. It might not be the pleasant thing to have to hear, but it's allowed. You've already done the most reasonable thing and changed the time for when it does tests. Leave it at that.

What you want to be careful about is making sure you don't end up harming how well the generator keeps itself cooled. Most residential units are air-cooled and depend on there being enough open area around them to pull in fresh and and expel the heated air (both exhaust and just the air used to cool it). So a wall that attempted to block or otherwise channel the air would have to be sure to leave enough room for the unit to work reliably. I don't know what make/model generator you've got but I'd think the manufacturer would be able to tell you want dimensions would be required for putting walls around it.
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What a waste of public resources to call the police about a generator running for 12 minutes...

While I don't think 8 PM is too late for general power equipment noise in a neighborhood, I'd just change the schedule to mid day as others have suggested and be done with it.

Just ignore this person in the future, and just let her call the police next time there is a power outage and your generator is running. She will be the one looking like a complete idiot.
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Also, your WAY out of line to be calling an older woman or Any woman for that matter the B word!
There's some that fully meet that word in every sense and deserve it, age or gender is not a valid excuse not to assign that title appropriately where deserved!
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At 8 pm in the summer the sun is still up and it's daylight, here the sun sets around 9:30 pm in the heart of the summer.

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