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Old 12-05-2011, 04:16 AM   #1
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My next project is to secure and support a staircase in a commercial warehouse. The only support it has now is 1 vertical 2x4 attached midway up the side and then the top landing to the second floor. I haven't really worked with stairs so I'm lost on this one...

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Post a picture----are you qualified to work on commercial projects? That is something to think about--

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Post a picture----are you qualified to work on commercial projects? That is something to think about--
I'll grab a picture some point for you...And I have a licensed contractor if I need him, but he will try to take over the job and the guy I'm doing this for isn't looking to drop a ton of money on the project so I told him I'd see how tough it was...
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Stairs if properly built are usually supported only at the top and bottom---

Unless where is something unusual going on the stringers are badly designed or damaged---

A picture will help a lot---Mike---
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Stairs if properly built are usually supported only at the top and bottom---

Unless where is something unusual going on the stringers are badly designed or damaged---

A picture will help a lot---Mike---
Ok, I'll be back over there today so I'll take one and post it, thanks
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We have several members here with lots of stair experience--
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We have several members here with lots of stair experience--
Yep.....I spend lots of time stairing at pictures of pretty girls.....
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Those stairs (the stringers and treads) look fine---and properly built--

The landing looks like it's possibly in need of a post or bracket but it's hard to tell without seeing how it's attached to the upper deck.

I believe the vertical 2x4 in the center of the staircase is a stiffener for the hand rail---

What is the customers complaint?
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For my stairs, I had to use 2x14's on 12" OC....
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I agree with Mike, Those stairs (the stringers and treads) look fine---and properly built--

The landing looks like it's possibly in need of a post or bracket but it's hard to tell without seeing how it's attached to the upper deck.

the landing looks as though it may feel a bit spongy? I think I'd build a wall under the stinger put in a door and call it storage closet.
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Or just a simple 4 X 4 though bolted at the top with two carrage bolts and a Simpson Strong Tie post block at the bottom.
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I agree, you do need posts for the landing, just not enough support there, I would also add support midway under the stringers.
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If I were you, I’d give it to the licensed contractor. He would be liable- with liability insurance- not you, without any insurance? I could understand if this was your warehouse….
The stair handrail is not to code, the post for the stringer and handrail, the riser/treads are cut from other wood and stuck-on, using single 2x8? for stringers, the top of stringer attachments are not to code- even minimum residential let alone the stricter commercial, the nosing appear past residential code maximum, the landing appears 1-1/2---2” higher rise than the rest, and the landing guardrail picket spacing.



As you have to ask without seeing the few things I spotted at a glance, sub it out to others more capable than you. A permit is required as it is commercial and structural.


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If I were you, I’d give it to the licensed contractor. He would be liable- with liability insurance- not you, without any insurance? I could understand if this was your warehouse….
The stair handrail is not to code, the post for the stringer and handrail, the riser/treads are cut from other wood and stuck-on, using single 2x8? for stringers, the top of stringer attachments are not to code- even minimum residential let alone the stricter commercial, the nosing appear past residential code maximum, the landing appears 1-1/2---2” higher rise than the rest, and the landing guardrail picket spacing.

As you have to ask without seeing the few things I spotted at a glance, sub it out to others more capable than you. A permit is required as it is commercial and structural.

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I appreciate everyone's input...I have a licensed contractor who said he'd help me with any projects this guy throws at me and I think this will be one of them. He has looked at my other work in the warehouse and said it's all good. So I think I'll go that route, thanks guys

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