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chronojosh 01-21-2013 06:37 PM

Splash up guard
 
I am remodeling a room in my house and noticed that the bottom plate along the exterior walls has been wet sometime recently and was still a little damp when I demo'd the room. This room is on the gable end of a 1 story ranch, and the gable end of the roof has basically no overhang. I think the water dripping off the roof when it rains is splashing up and getting under the siding. I do notice a lot of mud splashed along the foundation and that's what is making this seem like what's causing the problem to me. The exterior of the house is board and batten. what are my options as far as remedying this problem? I looked online and found one solution that was to use a piece of metal to flashing on the bottom of the siding. My only concern with that is drainage of any water from behind the siding. Any thoughts on solutions? Thanks in advance.

joecaption 01-21-2013 06:43 PM

Going to need a picture on this one.

weber_constr. 01-21-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chronojosh (Post 1098898)
I am remodeling a room in my house and noticed that the bottom plate along the exterior walls has been wet sometime recently and was still a little damp when I demo'd the room. This room is on the gable end of a 1 story ranch, and the gable end of the roof has basically no overhang. I think the water dripping off the roof when it rains is splashing up and getting under the siding. I do notice a lot of mud splashed along the foundation and that's what is making this seem like what's causing the problem to me. The exterior of the house is board and batten. what are my options as far as remedying this problem? I looked online and found one solution that was to use a piece of metal to flashing on the bottom of the siding. My only concern with that is drainage of any water from behind the siding. Any thoughts on solutions? Thanks in advance.

What is your foundation?

chronojosh 01-22-2013 01:09 PM

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The foundation is concrete block. I am having trouble with my camera so I can't get a picture right now, but here is a schematic I found online of what I was considering doing (minus the "Home Slicker" drainage mat). Hope that helps.

joecaption 01-22-2013 01:43 PM

I do it that way all there time but use 1 X 6 vinyl lumber at the bottom. not wood.
If you get it from a real siding supply you can get it up to 16' long for less seams.

chronojosh 01-22-2013 02:47 PM

You put 1x6 vinyl lumber in place of the metal drip cap? I'm not sure if I follow you... Adding the metal drip cap is what I was considering. Also maybe placing landscaping stone on the ground at the gable ends of the house.

Pittsville 01-24-2013 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chronojosh
You put 1x6 vinyl lumber in place of the metal drip cap? I'm not sure if I follow you... Adding the metal drip cap is what I was considering. Also maybe placing landscaping stone on the ground at the gable ends of the house.

Joe is saying that he uses 1x6 vinyl lumber for the water table. The metal flashing would be bent to fit over the top of the water table. The flashing is intended to shed water to the outside of the wall, not prevent splash back from below.

Going to be difficult to suggest a suitable solution without photos. Are there any windows in this wall? Gable vents?

chronojosh 01-24-2013 09:29 PM

Ok. I understand now. I just fixed my camera, but it's dark here now, so I'll try to post some pictures tomorrow.

hand drive 01-25-2013 09:56 AM

with board and batten chances are you are getting water behind the horizontal battens which in turn carries the water to the interior portion of the wall. this happens more at the lower portion of the wall because the water has had a chance to build up more force at that point and get into the wall easier...

whenever you need a new roof on the house consider adding gable overhangs to the house, they help a whole bunch.

joecaption 01-25-2013 10:12 AM

A bunch of times when I have found board and batten rotting it was because no one took the time to preprime and paint the boards or the battens before installing.
What that does is leave the back side and under the battens unprotected.
With board and batten or T-111 I always paint or stain the bottoms and up the back side at lease a foot, two coats.


When I remove the rotten battens there's always an unpainted unsealed strip left exposed.
The few I have done I replaced the battens with vinyl lumber and just paint them to match so it never happens again.

chronojosh 01-25-2013 09:40 PM

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I have pulled off a couple of the battens before to replace them. I did notice that they weren't painted on the back side. The ones I put on were though and I even caulked all the seams for good measure. Anyways, here are a few pictures of the area in question. The first photo is the outside of the house where the water is splashing off the ground an bouncing up onto the bottom of the siding. The next photos I get closer to the house, and the last couple photos are looking up from the ground under the siding where it meets the house. There is a gap between the foundation and the siding and that is where the water is bouncing off the ground into. As you can see the gap is big enough for me to fit my finger in! So what are my options as far as stopping water from getting in there? Also, I just had the roof redon 3 years ago when I bought the house. If I only knew then what I knew now, I would have had the overhang on the gable ends of the house extended. Oh well....maybe in 30 years.

joecaption 01-26-2013 01:54 AM

Well there's the problum, the house was built sideways.
I just hate it when I see home built with no over hangs, it shorten the life of everything below the roof and always causes splash back.

One cheap and easy thing that may work and not look bad is to use stone along the foundation out at least 12".
One thing I notice is it looks like the bottom of the panels was not painted. (may just be the picture)
The panels look like someone let it go to long before painting it again.
Ya those panels were suppost to run past the foundation by about an inch to keep the air from getting in.
May want to try caulking that area.

chronojosh 01-26-2013 03:35 AM

Yeah, the house is in need of a repaint, I plan on taking care of that this spring. Anyway, will the stone still prevent water from splashing up? I understand it will take care of the dirt, but won't the water just bounce up off the rocks instead? I was hoping that caulk wasn't the answer, although it may help, only because I don't think it will be a good long term solution. Any other ideas? Nobody makes any sort of device/item to retrofit into this space in a situation like this? Thanks again for all the replies and help.

Pittsville 01-26-2013 08:23 AM

I would install a water table (piece of vinyl lumber) tight against that block at the bottom of the siding. I would bend a piece of galvanized steel flashing that slides up behind the siding and covers the top of the water table. (Making sure to bend a proper drip edge)

The result should look similar to the illustration that you posted. This is just what I would do. Someone else might have a better suggestion.

hand drive 01-26-2013 08:52 AM

that spot is always the candidate for not being done right or never dealt with etc because it is up under and unseen- just like the tops of window casing in houses, it never gets caulked and leaks air- above and unseen.

some "quad" siding caulk and round backer foam rods for stuffing/pre filling large gaps and a tarp to lay on while you work should suffice to close/seal that gap behind the siding. Quad should function as a long term sealer. stay away from the cheap caulk, it will fail really quick at sealing correctly.


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