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Old 05-08-2013, 08:29 AM   #16
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if you are having problems getting he drill to go into the concrete the ramset will have problems also.

as far tapcons go, i find them the easiest and best way to fasten plates down. We use construction adhesive and drill a tapcon in every third stud or so.

I think you may have run into especially hard concrete. A new bit might be in order to continue.

As far as the drill, it looks just like my 3/8's dewault and is definitely not a hammer drill.

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If all else fails and these walls are simply partitions you could just glue the plates down.
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That is not a "real" hammer drill its what I call a bump clutch. Two washers with protrusions on them jump over each other. Rent a real Hilti Hammer drill with a piston hammer, and you will be looking at about 20 seconds per hole. Also buy a box of 3 x 1/4 inch rawl spikes. It will go like a breeze. Looking at your slab you will have a lot of blow outs with powder actuated, I dont like them at all, very questionable attachment.

I own a Hilti TE-12S and it goes into concrete like butter. 6 blows per revolution.
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When I zoom in on the pic of your drill, I don't see a lever for hammer. I see a switch on the handle which would be for 2 speeds. Is there a lever on the main body of the drill for hammer? That switch or lever should be mechanical, not electrical, to change the gearing in the head.
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I ran into this issue when putting in a partition wall in basement.

Some holes for the tapcons were just ridiculously tough to drill.

I moved over a few inches and they went in like butter.

Worth a try.
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I own a Hilti TE-12S and it goes into concrete like butter. 6 blows per revolution.
I prefer 7-71/2 blows per revolution. But that's just me
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Another vote for the Ramset. I don't like tapcons either.
Me three. The cheapest Ramset that Mae-ling has linked above does the job for a DIYer.

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I prefer 7-71/2 blows per revolution. But that's just me
hahahahah. The reason I brought that up is that one of those bump clutch guns goes

dididididididididididididididididididididididididi dididididididididididididididididididid
dididididididididididididididididididididididididi didididididididididididididididididididi
per revolution

And my Hilti goes

BAM!,BAM!,BAM!,BAM!,BAM!,BAM!,
per revolution

Its the Bam Bam that gets the job done. all the dididididididididi does is rattle your teeth.

The other thing the OP might be doing wrong is pushing on the gun. You have to let it do its own thing, and you have to back it out frequently to clear the dust, otherwise you are just pounding the dust.
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I've said it many times here, the a reason Tapcon's have a free bit with them, because that's exactly what that bit is worth. Buy a $8 SDS+ bit from the store, and carefully chuck it into your drill so that it runs true, and you'll cut the drilling time down substantially. Assuming that is actually a hammer drill though........
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First of all, SDS+ is a chuck design type, not a bit material or design type per se, and his drill might not take it.

Second, with this arguing over hammer drills - it might well be a hammer drill. Some of you are apparently trying to talk about a rotary drill, which is simply a better type of hammer drill than standard. If the drill is not a rotary drill, it doesn't mean it's not a hammer drill.

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hahahahah. The reason I brought that up is that one of those bump clutch guns goes

dididididididididididididididididididididididididi dididididididididididididididididididid
dididididididididididididididididididididididididi didididididididididididididididididididi
per revolution

And my Hilti goes

BAM!,BAM!,BAM!,BAM!,BAM!,BAM!,
Lol. I'm reading this out loud as I sit across from the wifey while having our morning coffee. She shakes her head and rolls here eyes at all of us.

You can never have too many hammer drills.
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She heard that! Thanks a lot. Just lost half my breakfast.
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First of all, SDS+ is a chuck design type, not a bit material or design type per se, and his drill might not take it.

Second, with this arguing over hammer drills - it might well be a hammer drill. Some of you are apparently trying to talk about a rotary drill, which is simply a better type of hammer drill than standard. If the drill is not a rotary drill, it doesn't mean it's not a hammer drill.
If it has at least a 3/8" chuck it will take an SDS+ bit.........

The reason for the SDS+ bit is because it's of much better quality than the free bits, and is easily sourced for a homeowner......
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Lol. I'm reading this out loud as I sit across from the wifey while having our morning coffee. She shakes her head and rolls here eyes at all of us.

You can never have too many hammer drills.
Did she say "Are you done yet? On the home improvement shows they get the whole house done in a half hour"

Well hon, I would be if I had a Hilti instead of a didididididididididididididididi

Yeah, its time for a woman President.
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Another vote for the Ramset. I don't like tapcons either.

Used to be that Hilti was the only game in town. And somewhere I lived over 30 years ago (Washington State maybe), you had to have some sort of license to use one. Maybe it was an OSHA thing. Needless to say, Hilti guns were not usually sold to the general public.
I took that test- what joke. Hilti sales rep gives you a 1 page quiz reads the question and gave us the answers- and we checked off the correct answer.
But like you, that was several years ago. Hilti was top dog.
If you go onto a large construction job today you'll see a lot of trades have the tool now. Someone will yell "FIRE" then you'll here a pop or a ping- I hate the pings That's the steel stud framer anchoring track to steel beams. Really hurts my ears

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