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Old 01-04-2009, 06:22 PM   #16
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22 to Orr Drive/Readington Rd to Tanglewood to Oriole. I'm in Birdland. Other side of town. But heck, B-burg is small. My son goes to Whiton Elementary.

Where abouts in Neshanic? I put an offer on a house at the top of Oak Crest back in 06, and I have friends on Hickory Hill Lane. I ended up in Birdland. The house I sold was up the hill from Moss' Nursery on Robbins.

About your floor, did you go see Mr. Tamborini down at boro hall yet? He's pretty knowledgeable, and he's a free resource, but I doubt he'll weigh in on this one. You're so close, let me come look at it. I have to be in Philipsburg to kick a job off at 0700 tomorrow, and Monday night is Chimney Rock Inn's Xmas party (wife works there). But Tuesday late afternoon or evening might work.

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Jeez, that is funny how these things work out. Aggie67, that's really cool of you to offer to help him out. That's the kind of thing that makes this a great online place.
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Aggie,

I am on Briar, just up the street from Oak Crest. And you are close to my favorite place to be - Solberg airport. Its still a pretty small world. Lucky you - Chimny Rock has great pizza. Dulucas in Rartan is another contender. Enjoy.

Since I started this project I now know John T very well, he and his team are great to work with.

Unfortunatly I had a death in the family over the weekend so I will be unavailable most of Mon and Tues. How does your Wed look after work? Tues evening may also work but that would have to be played by ear.

Drop me an IM with a contact number - your Cell phone or email address and i will contact you offline. I can not yet IM because I don't yet have 20 posts.

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Steve, my condolences. Take care of what's important.

I was at Solberg last week. I met one of my clients in the parking lot there to hand over some drawings. His son works there. It's a shame what the town did to the Solberg family, IMHO.

And I go to De Lucias Pizza every Monday at 6:45pm. I know the place well. My son takes drum lessons in the red building next door, and I hang out at the pizzeria after I drop him off.

I'll IM you later today with my contact info.
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Aggie,

I dropped you a voicemail. Please give me a ring when you get a chance.

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Steve,
Seems silly to post about this now, now that I've seen your project and met you. I'm probably going to stick to e-mail and calling you. Maybe if we come up with a game plan we can post here to help folks.

But for now, I'll update everyone.

Steve's got a great set of projects rolling at his house. And he's doing it all the right way (permits, plan, patience). If his laundry and bonus room over the garage are any barometer, he's going to have an awesome kitchen and bathroom. He's got some beautiful blond travertine that he's going to tie some spaces together with. He's got the issue nailed: deflection. L/720 is the recommended deflection for natural stone, and he and I both agree something needs to be done.

I took one look at the travertine he already had down, and I was sold that it was the right look. My big concerns are:

1. The floor as-is will lead to cracks.
2. The metal banding concept sounds neat in theory, but it would be an experiment, and thus risky.
3. Getting an L/720 floor shouldn't be a big deal on paper, and his calcs are sound (double check the dead load again with the tile and sistering included), but having an L/720 floor doesn't mean you'll avoid deflection altogether. At some point I worry there will be a party or a gathering when there's a bunch of people in the kitchen, and someone may jump or hop off a counter, and bang, the instantaneous load could cause a crack.

I have a couple ideas I want to check out. I'll call you.
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Aggie,

Thanks for updating this thread. I think it helps people understand the importance of what a professional can bring to your project. Many things can be DIY, some things are not. When a person wants to start altering structure, it's VERY important they do it correctly. Also, just because someone wants to install tile over wood framing doesn't mean they can. There are very specific guidelines to what the framing requirements are for using natural stone tiles. Steve is obviously interested in follow these guidelines and with your help, hopefully he'll end up with a beautiful installation that will last a lifetime!

Steve, why not post the final outcome when complete?!?

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