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Old 11-27-2009, 11:40 AM   #1
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I am finishing my 2 car garage under my house.Previous owner used it as a work shop. I put the garage doors,insulation as its under the bedrooms [R35] and did the rough eletrical. Both inspection are done.

Now i am struck at strapping. I got 1X3 strappings.
Now i have searching online for days and cannot find how to attach these to the joist.

Its so simple no one even mentions the nailsize. If i get a 16 or 18 gauge nail/staple gun i can install them ?.

Once done i will be left with 5/8 drywall .so i am worried about doing this correctly.

so here are the question again

1) Iwant to use a 16 gauge or 18 gauges nail gun .either i am going to buy from harbour frieght for this use .30$ a pop for a day use.

2) I do not want to nail with a hammer above my head but if i have to then well i will but hoping their is an easier way without spending a few hundred on a 1 day use nail gun.

3)What is the strapping distance for 5/8 boards.

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Old 11-27-2009, 11:46 AM   #2
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I would use 8d common nails and space the strapping 16" on center.
You would not use finish nails of any guage.
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:50 AM   #3
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I am finishing my 2 car garage under my house.Previous owner used it as a work shop. I put the garage doors,insulation as its under the bedrooms [R35] and did the rough eletrical. Both inspection are done.

Now i am struck at strapping. I got 1X3 strappings.
Now i have searching online for days and cannot find how to attach these to the joist.

Its so simple no one even mentions the nailsize. If i get a 16 or 18 gauge nail/staple gun i can install them ?.

Once done i will be left with 5/8 drywall .so i am worried about doing this correctly.

so here are the question again

1) Iwant to use a 16 gauge or 18 gauges nail gun .either i am going to buy from harbour frieght for this use .30$ a pop for a day use.

2) I do not want to nail with a hammer above my head but if i have to then well i will but hoping their is an easier way without spending a few hundred on a 1 day use nail gun.

3)What is the strapping distance for 5/8 boards.

satz
Why are you strapping and not screwing/nailing the sheetrock to the bottom of the joists?
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Old 11-27-2009, 12:31 PM   #4
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Why are you strapping and not screwing/nailing the sheetrock to the bottom of the joists?
Its a split entry with 2 car garage under the main level.so all the wirings are under the house.

I brought the house and it will cost a few grand to rewire everything so strapping is the easier/cheaper option

Is their is a nail gun option for 8d nails.It does not sound good about nailing 200 nails on a 8 foot ceiling ..

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You guys have this old man chuckling a little bit. Time was, and not that long ago, that it would be unheard of NOT to strap (fur down) any ceiling, whether joists or trusses. It helps control cracks, and it provides the opportunity to shim out for a truly flat ceiling.
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You guys have this old man chuckling a little bit. Time was, and not that long ago, that it would be unheard of NOT to strap (fur down) any ceiling, whether joists or trusses. It helps control cracks, and it provides the opportunity to shim out for a truly flat ceiling.
And around here it is unheard of to strap ceilings. There's no reason to on to work. It's true to fur out an existing old ceiling if it's uneven, but that's totally different. There's no reason to strap a ceiling on a new home or a new addition. Not strapping a ceiling doesn't mean you will get cracks. There's thousands and thousands of houses built that don't get strapped.

Strapping is a Regional thing. People who strap think that people who don't strap are crazy. People who don't strap think that people who do strap are crazy. The bottom line is that if you don't strap you will have a ceiling turn out with the same quality as a ceiling that is strapped.

If you have to strap a new conventional framed ceiling ( 2x's) just to shim and make level, that means you are using garbage floor joists and ceiling joists. If your using I-joists, they are almost perfectly straight, why would you strap them?
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"Is their is a nail gun option for 8d nails.It does not sound good about nailing 200 nails on a 8 foot ceiling ..
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You want a framing nailer. You can rent one if you don't want to buy one. They have pnuematic and airless types.
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People who strap think that people who don't strap are crazy. People who don't strap think that people who do strap are crazy.
So true. It's pretty much unheard of here as well, except in fire/sound assemblies in commercial/multifamily work and then the "strapping" is hat channel. Sounds like a good way for the OP to deal with the wires though.

My recommendation would be a siding coil nailer (not a roofing coil nailer). It'll shoot 8d ring shanks, which will hold super tight. You can rent them just about anywhere.
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Strapping does provide a means of fishing wires across joist bays
Without my old ceilings strapped it would have been much harder to snake wires for my smokes

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