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Old 03-11-2007, 11:47 AM   #91
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very nice work cnat wait to see it when your done just hope that aint another 5 months but considering how time consuming drywall is it may take longer (lol) I would however take the advice and add a little support between

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What would you call doing less than the minimum required by code?

You should probably stop and think to yourself "Is it really worth it?" When was the last time you heard of someone passing on the sale of a home because the receptacles were spaced a wee bit too far apart?

You have had your say. We all get it. You space your outlets perfectly every time.
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You should probably stop and think to yourself "Is it really worth it?" When was the last time you heard of someone passing on the sale of a home because the receptacles were spaced a wee bit too far apart?

You have had your say. We all get it. You space your outlets perfectly every time.

When there is one thing that stands out like a sore thumb, it makes me wonder "what else did they do wrong?" From reading some of the posts here, it also looks like the soffits are framed wrong. What else can't we see?

You wouldn't pay for shoddy work, why would you do it yourself?
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:28 PM   #94
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Actually, beer geek, everything is wrong.

I will PM you and give you my address and you can come over and show me the right way of doing things (because I am certain that you always do that), and in exchange we can talk (I have a pysch. degree) and discuss what really is underlying your concern for my basement reno.

And, for you, I will even forgo the fee, (even though that is against what I normally do.)

You never know, after our chat, I may save you money. You may not even have to buy as much beer.


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P.S. Will you send me a picture of your bar when it's done. I would love to see.

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Yes, I will definitely add more support under the soffit. They are now spaced 24 inches apart, and I will add another support, in between that. I think that should make it stronger so that my drywall will not, hopefully, sag.

Thanks for your advice.

Much appreciated.
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Now you're going to play amatuer psychologist. That's great. What's underlying? It's really quite simple. You posted pictures seeking affirmation. Some people, including myself have pointed out some things that are improperly done. Things that won't pass inspection. You are getting it inspected, right? You have the proper permits, right?

Sorry I didn't give you what you need by pointing out potential problems. Isn't that what this place it about; providing people with information on the correct ways to do things?
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Y.M. - I sent you a PM about this debate.
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Y.M. - I sent you a PM about this debate.

Why a private message? I would love to hear a pro's opinion on this subject.
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Why a private message? I would love to hear a pro's opinion on this subject.

Honestly...you guys seemed to be a little too ... 'publicly' ... harsh on her in trying to get your point across.
....... I decided to try and use a little more 'discretion' when offering my '2 cents'....

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Honestly...you guys seemed to be a little too ... 'publicly' ... harsh on her in trying to get your point across.
....... I decided to try and use a little more 'discretion' when offering my '2 cents'....

It's a public thread on a public message board. Taking it offline does a disservice to everyone who is reading this thread.

Since your sig is "Build Well", I can only guess that you agree with the folks who think it's important to follow the codes. However, without confirmation, we'll never know.
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As a contractor who has installed a lot of framing, insulation and poly in basements, it's easy to think the old way is the best way. But the current thinking among those who test this sort of thing is that there is no way you are going to prevent moisture from permeating subgrade concrete walls. Foundation waterproofing, Dry-Lok, etc all help, but vapor and, in some cases, liquid water will find it's way in from the outside. By installing the plastic sheet on top of the framing and insulation, you are in effect trapping that moisture in place. And materials that stay constantly damp will mold.

The preferred method is to attach 3/4 - 1" extruded polystyrene directly to the masonry walls to prevent condensation from forming when warm, moist air hits the cold walls. Then, frame and insulate with unfaced batting. This way, we have controlled the liquid water which cannot pass through the XPS, but still allow vapor to pass through the drywall without being trapped and causing mildew and rot.

The references you provided for vapor barriers do not apply to subgrade installations, which are a completely different can of worms.

Remember, just because we've been doing something forever, doesn't mean it's right.

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As a contractor who has installed a lot of framing, insulation and poly in basements, it's easy to think the old way is the best way. But the current thinking among those who test this sort of thing is that there is no way you are going to prevent moisture from permeating subgrade concrete walls. Foundation waterproofing, Dry-Lok, etc all help, but vapor and, in some cases, liquid water will find it's way in from the outside. By installing the plastic sheet on top of the framing and insulation, you are in effect trapping that moisture in place. And materials that stay constantly damp will mold.

The preferred method is to attach 3/4 - 1" extruded polystyrene directly to the masonry walls to prevent condensation from forming when warm, moist air hits the cold walls. Then, frame and insulate with unfaced batting. This way, we have controlled the liquid water which cannot pass through the XPS, but still allow vapor to pass through the drywall without being trapped and causing mildew and rot.

The references you provided for vapor barriers do not apply to subgrade installations, which are a completely different can of worms.

Remember, just because we've been doing something forever, doesn't mean it's right.

Gar out.

Huh? ??

...Talk about digging up a 'post'... hijack skeleton....


There should be a seperate forum just to discuss this 'belly-button' topic ....and there the different opinion discussions should stay...

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Sorry, the reply did seem out of left field. Well, maybe it will at least show up in a search.

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