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rtoni 12-06-2010 01:55 PM

shower wall stability
 
hi all - I saw this older thread in the forum here and it's pretty close to what I'm trying to do in my bathroom

http://www.diychatroom.com/f19/showe...framing-23956/

I have the same situation except that the wall in question (approx 4') may end up being a full height (approx 84") + tile, as opposed to half height + glass on top. So - same issue (wall stability), but taller wall.

If I run the wall studs down in to the floor space and brace them against floor joists and / or blocking, etc as suggested in the thread referenced above, will it be solid enough even if the wall is 80" high? I don't want the wall to go right up to the ceiling, which would make this rock solid, but it would look kinda crappy in our case. We would like hang a full height glass door approx 24" wide x 80" high off this same wall so the free end has to be pretty stable I assume.

I'd like to use 2x4 to frame the wall, to maximize shower space (as opposed to 2x6). Underneath is the crawl space with 2x12 floor joists + blocking already in place @ 6' mid span (I really overbuilt it) so I have a very solid floor with lots to brace against if I do this.

Thanks for any feedback

-randy

Ron6519 12-06-2010 06:36 PM

I'd use a steel box bolted to the joists and run up the inside of the wall if you're going to hang a door on it. I'd also screw and glue a plywood skin on both sides.
Ron

rtoni 12-08-2010 12:28 PM

Thanks Ron - by steel box you mean a length of square steel tubing or actually fabricating a box to fit exactly between the joists? sorry if I'm not understanding correctly...

Ron6519 12-08-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtoni (Post 547949)
Thanks Ron - by steel box you mean a length of square steel tubing or actually fabricating a box to fit exactly between the joists? sorry if I'm not understanding correctly...

I was just speaking of the square steel tubing as it requires no welding skill. But, if you have a welder and want to go to the effort.....
Ron

rtoni 12-08-2010 02:00 PM

I'm not much of a welder - I'll stick with the tubing which I can easily pick up on the way out next time. Plywood also noted. thanks for the tips...

rtoni 01-27-2011 01:39 PM

I'm resurrecting this thread as I have another related question.

Assuming I build my 2 shower wing walls (framed and tiled - using the advice here - thanks) to a full height (say, 84") but I do not install a door. Instead, I have a walk in shower. Could I add a shower rod (not sure if that's what it would be called in this case) that connects / ties the top ends of the 2 wing walls together (e.g. across the top of the walkway / opening). This could serve as a curtain rod (should I decide to hang a curtain there at some point) and also stabilize the top of the wall sections, kinda like a top rail should do in a glass enclosure...?

Really trying to squeeze the budget now and the walk in option seems kinda cool. Just not sure if the top rod / rail would spoil it.

Does that make sense? Would this look cheezy? It seems like a really easy way to add some extra stability to the walls. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a thousand pics of glass enclosures but I'm not having much luck finding an example of what I'm trying to describe. Maybe that should tell me something..:huh:?

Ron6519 01-27-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtoni (Post 578986)
I'm resurrecting this thread as I have another related question.

Assuming I build my 2 shower wing walls (framed and tiled - using the advice here - thanks) to a full height (say, 84") but I do not install a door. Instead, I have a walk in shower. Could I add a shower rod (not sure if that's what it would be called in this case) that connects / ties the top ends of the 2 wing walls together (e.g. across the top of the walkway / opening). This could serve as a curtain rod (should I decide to hang a curtain there at some point) and also stabilize the top of the wall sections, kinda like a top rail should do in a glass enclosure...?

Really trying to squeeze the budget now and the walk in option seems kinda cool. Just not sure if the top rod / rail would spoil it.

Does that make sense? Would this look cheezy? It seems like a really easy way to add some extra stability to the walls. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a thousand pics of glass enclosures but I'm not having much luck finding an example of what I'm trying to describe. Maybe that should tell me something..:huh:?

These rods are not built to control wing walls. They are usually 2 escutcheon plates that have a rod in the center. The rod just floats in the plates. You would need something like a threaded pipe with flanges screwed into the ends that were then screwed into the wall to tie them together.
Decorative solutions are rarely structural( and visa versa).
Ronron

rtoni 01-27-2011 05:11 PM

thanks Ron - i see what you're saying. I guess there's no product out there that's both (decorative and structural)? in this case? I'm just kicking ideas around - thanks for the feedback.


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