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Old 07-12-2010, 10:43 PM   #31
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Don't forget to take the front let-in braces out of the built beams for full continuous strength.

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It doesn't appear that the built up beam idea will work after all (7% isn't nearly enough), so I'll have to work out something else anyway. (After all the effort I've invested in trying to avoid this, I might even be forced to go with your original suggestion of using a 4x10 lol.)

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Oh well. Good try. Usually when the half dozen of us that really get into SU want some detailed input on a particular drawing, we just go the email route. If you ever find yourself wanting that level of scrutiney of a model, there are several guys here willing to take a look for you...... and most of them are way better than I am.
I'd be more than happy to have that level of scrutiny - if you'd be willing to take a look at just pm me your address and I'll send it out.

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OK, glad to. BTW, if you should decide to go with the sandwiched beams, here's a neat way to use the plywood, itself, as a corner brace...... although you might have to add some edge wood to dress the braces up... stiffen them up some, too.

This is an exploded view of a beam. One end of the ply is shown trimmed out, and the other is just solid... no cutout. It would go into a narrow groove on the post.
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OK, glad to. BTW, if you should decide to go with the sandwiched beams, here's a neat way to use the plywood, itself, as a corner brace...... although you might have to add some edge wood to dress the braces up... stiffen them up some, too.

This is an exploded view of a beam. One end of the ply is shown trimmed out, and the other is just solid... no cutout. It would go into a narrow groove on the post.
Now that is slick - very cool idea.
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Now that is slick - very cool idea.
Of course you'd have to work out the various lengths of the end sections of ply where they differ from the actual lumber of the beam... and if using hangers, you'd have to ease some notches in for the Simpsons to clear, etc.... but the drawing gives you a starting point to think about.

Well, it's starting toward midnight here, so I'm off to go walk the dog. Later.
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I clued in to a very stupid mistake the other day - Iíve been doing my beam-load calculations using the total span instead of the unsupported span. The unsupported span is only 7', and at F'b = 1500 a triple 2x6 can safely support 3240lbs - so I donít even need any filtch plates!

And thanks to Willie T, who suggested a host of improvements to the railing and trim, I now have framing plan #4:





Iím heading down to the parentís cottage on Sunday for a week to finish up some plastering Iíve been doing and plan to (at the least) get the screenhouse posts set.

I figure that getting the posts raised plumb and square will be the most challenging part of construction for me, considering it took me almost two days to get the batter boards set up (three dimensions is too many).
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If anyone wants to see how this project is turning out, Iíll be chronicling the construction process here: Screenhouse in the woods.

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