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dabeast 10-18-2013 11:39 AM

Screws vs Nails for deck.
 
Wanted to get opinions on using the Simpson screws for my deck hangers or should I just stick with nails?

Screws would seem easier to adjust if needed.

cortell 10-18-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dabeast (Post 1255037)
Wanted to get opinions on using the Simpson screws for my deck hangers or should I just stick with nails?

Screws would seem easier to adjust if needed.

Assuming the particular hanger says it's OK to use the SDS screws, it's really just a matter of preference. For sure it's easier to remove a screw when you realize the hanger is in the wrong place. However, the screws are more expensive. Also, some people (me) find it faster to use a palm nailer to install the hanger than to use an impact driver. So, if you don't make (many) mistakes and you want to save money, and possibly time, nails are the way to go.

RunningSparky 10-18-2013 12:16 PM

I was always taught to use nails on the hangars and screws on the deck boards. The shear rating on nails is so much higher than screws, less chance of your joists coming down once you have load on top.

cortell 10-18-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunningSparky (Post 1255047)
The shear rating on nails is so much higher than screws

Not true for Simpson SDS screws and other screws that are equally rated for structure. Typically, they are made of the same grade steel and have the same core diameter as common nails. Thus they have the same shear strength.

dabeast 10-18-2013 12:36 PM

Didn't even think of a palm nailer. I don't own one and this will be a good reason to purchase one. Use nails with a new tool would probably be about the same cost as using screws probably.

Suggestion on what palm nailer to purchase?

Thanks,

cortell 10-18-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dabeast (Post 1255055)
Didn't even think of a palm nailer. I don't own one and this will be a good reason to purchase one. Use nails with a new tool would probably be about the same cost as using screws probably.

Suggestion on what palm nailer to purchase?

Thanks,

It'll be love at first try. You'll wonder how you ever got by without one.

I use Dewalt's (D51180). I'm very happy with it, but good luck finding one. Dewalt discontinued them and they have not introduced a replacement model. I had to buy mine second hand on ebay.

I've heard good things about the Bostitch one, and the price is pretty reasonable. I believe either HD and/or Lowes carries them. They do around here, anyway.

dabeast 10-18-2013 02:35 PM

Think i'll go with the Bostitch one it will give me something to use my Lowes gift card on.

ddawg16 10-18-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cortell (Post 1255058)
It'll be love at first try. You'll wonder how you ever got by without one.

I use Dewalt's (D51180). I'm very happy with it, but good luck finding one. Dewalt discontinued them and they have not introduced a replacement model. I had to buy mine second hand on ebay.

I've heard good things about the Bostitch one, and the price is pretty reasonable. I believe either HD and/or Lowes carries them. They do around here, anyway.

Understatement......about the only negative is the noise...those b!tches are loud....wear ear plugs and enjoy the results.

I have the Bostich....$37 from Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/BOSTITCH-PN50-...ds=palm+nailer

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...vL._SX385_.jpg

joecaption 10-18-2013 02:47 PM

I have two Bostitch palm nailers that have worked out fine.
We were using so many hangers nails I went one step further and bought a nailer that uses hanger nails in a strip.
Talk about faster, any of you pro's that use a lot of hanger nails I strongly suggest buying one.

woodworkbykirk 10-18-2013 10:08 PM

the screws are spec'd specifically in seismic zones i beleive as they are harder to pull out

dabeast 10-28-2013 11:08 AM

Just wanted to say thanks for the suggestions on the palm nailer. It woked great this weekend as I was building my deck.

Sent those nails through the wood like a hot knife through butter.


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