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Old 10-11-2013, 05:39 PM   #1
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I am looking at getting some 6' scaffold frames (like these http://www.homedepot.com/p/Fortress-...8#.Ulh-J3fD_IU). Is one cross brace enough support or do I need a cross brace on each side?

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The braces are sold in two packs why wouldn't you use both?

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The braces are sold in two packs why wouldn't you use both?
Did not think they were sold as set..... I am counting an X as one cross brace, so I am asking about 2 X's vs 1.

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Did not think they were sold as set.
If you're buying new they are.
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its also required to have 2 braces on if you dont want to get a fine from the safety office. improperly setup scaffold is a very common fine
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I am looking at getting some 6' scaffold frames (like these http://www.homedepot.com/p/Fortress-...8#.Ulh-J3fD_IU). Is one cross brace enough support or do I need a cross brace on each side?
If you plan on just using standard plank, I'd probably use 2 braces per section. We only use aluminum planks with plywood decks, and they have integrated hooks on the end, so we rarely use 2 braces, as the plank really tighten the scaffold up.

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its also required to have 2 braces on if you dont want to get a fine from the safety office. improperly setup scaffold is a very common fine
Here in the US, OSHA doesn't have jurisdiction over homeowners that want to endanger themselves. At least not yet, maybe that's somehow rolled into the new health care legislation though........
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Why in gods name would you risk your life by installing only one cross brace?
This is the kind of thing that makes the price of scaffolding go up because they have to put stickers all over it to warn "people" to put a brace on both sides.

Do you have ground pins on your extension cords, or did someone break them off ?

Here is how it works:

Joe schmoe builds a scaffold and puts a brace on only one side. The scaffolding collapses, and Joe gets a broken back for his efforts. From his wheelchair Joe calls the best Lawyer he can get. The lawyer asks: "Did that cup have a lid on it" (TIC) he really asks: were there stickers on that scaffolding telling you that you needed two braces? "No, there might have been at one time but they were worn off" "Thats not what I asked you, I asked if there were stickers on the scaffolding" No.

Joe wins his lawsuit and gets 3 million, the lawyer takes about half, and Joe is happy, except when he has to sheit.

Harry goes to rent some scaffolding. "Sorry, we dont rent scaffolding anymore"

"Why?" "Because you have to take a course in scaffolding setup, and our insurance went up 50% to cover a lawsuit that somebody won, and we did not make enough on the rentals to make it worth it. Thats why all we rent now are dull shovels, so people can dig their own graves"
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Two braces are always better. You can be in for a nasty surprise if the single brace you're using manages to slip or break. I've witnessed this myself (thankfully I wasn't on the scaffold )
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Two braces are always better. You can be in for a nasty surprise if the single brace you're using manages to slip or break. I've witnessed this myself (thankfully I wasn't on the scaffold )
I've worked on some seriously questionable scaffolding in my career, and have undoubtedly spent 1000's of hours on the stuff, and I can't say I've ever seen, or even heard of, a brace breaking or slipping off. I don't want to downplay the safe use of scaffold frames, but they're generally much safer than relying on an alternative method..............
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I guess it is time to tell you all about the Irish Moon Landing Initiative (IMLI).

IMLI started off well and there was steady progress for years and years as the team was built and the program advanced towards he moon.

The nation was proud of its team of engineers and they were ready for them to make their mark on the world in the name of Ireland.

Then they ran out of scaffolding.
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I've worked on some seriously questionable scaffolding in my career, and have undoubtedly spent 1000's of hours on the stuff, and I can't say I've ever seen, or even heard of, a brace breaking or slipping off. I don't want to downplay the safe use of scaffold frames, but they're generally much safer than relying on an alternative method..............
I too have worked on a lot of scaffolding throughout my life, but if it was questionable, I fixed it, or I did not go on it. Typical is loose wing nuts, missing braces (1 instead of two, etc.) not tied in to the building, and no base plates, improper bearing.

We live in a world where there are people who could care less about what they do, or other people for that matter, and I would say that that is increasing, based on what I see out there.

I would not allow anyone that works for me on something that I would not go on myself, and working on something unstable is Russian Roulette. Never liked that game, as the outcome was always eventually the same.

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