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Old 09-18-2013, 01:38 PM   #1
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Is it ok to use tie plates or mending plates for a roof stuff instead of plywood gussets for a shed roof?

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what are you trying to accomplish?

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what do you mean what am I trying to accomplish? The joints in TRUSSES where bottom chord meets top. I want to know if its ok to use mending plates or tie plates instead of those plywood gussets?
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Is it ok to use tie plates or mending plates for a roof stuff instead of plywood gussets for a shed roof?
I do not see where you said TRUSSES in the OP, that's why I asked what are you trying to accomplish. A shed roof is typically a single pitched roof (1/2 gable). Make sense why I ask?

Got any photos that you could post?
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I do not see where you said TRUSSES in the OP, that's why I asked what are you trying to accomplish. A shed roof is typically a single pitched roof (1/2 gable). Make sense why I ask?

Got any photos that you could post?
Photos have nothing to do with what I asked.
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ok, guess I'm not intelligent enough to help you then

good luck! sorry you are having a bad day
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ok, guess I'm not intelligent enough to help you then

good luck! sorry you are having a bad day
sorry ya having a bad day. Let me ask you this question instead:

can't you just nail 2x4 lookouts directly to the end gable rafter if your doing like a small overhang? But if you do it that way how would you connect at the very peak? Also, for the 2 end gable trusses instead of doing a web design for bracing in between the top and bottom chords can you install end studs instead?
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are you talking about an extended rake on the gable end? if so we do them all the time by making a ladder frame from 2x4's and securing it to the gable endwall studs with a couple of structural wood screws.
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when I say extended rake I'm talking about something like this

http://www.houzz.com/extended-roof-rake
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are you talking about an extended rake on the gable end? if so we do them all the time by making a ladder frame from 2x4's and securing it to the gable endwall studs with a couple of structural wood screws.
Dont they need to be secured to the 2nd rafter?
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there are two ways of doing an extended rake, one as shown on page 43 of this link

http://awc.org/pdf/WCD1-300.pdf

the other way (one I described) is seen in figure B on page 111

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/us...73chapter4.pdf

in my area most are ladder framed (2x4's or 2x6 so they look like a ladder) and attached directly to the gable end wall studs.

either way works
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there are two ways of doing an extended rake, one as shown on page 43 of this link

http://awc.org/pdf/WCD1-300.pdf

the other way (one I described) is seen in figure B on page 111

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/us...73chapter4.pdf

in my area most are ladder framed (2x4's or 2x6 so they look like a ladder) and attached directly to the gable end wall studs.

either way works
So the way you do it your attaching the ladders to the end gable rafters and not to the second rafter in?
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Oh i forgot to ask. In between the truss bottom and top chord are the diaganol webbing. Instead of going diagonal and the 2 end trusses can I just do straight up and down end gable studs?
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our gable rafter sits inside a notched stud (gable end wall) and then the plywood sheathing is attached to the face of the wall.

then the ladder frame is attached. roof sheathing then extends out to rake edge of the ladder frame.
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Oh i forgot to ask. In between the truss bottom and top chord are the diaganol webbing. Instead of going diagonal and the 2 end trusses can I just do straight up and down end gable studs?
yes a gable end wall truss have vertical members usually at 16" o.c. for attachment of wall sheathing.

if you go with outriggers (2x members that go back to the 2nd truss) then the gable endwall truss is shorter than the inboard truss

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