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Old 01-15-2010, 08:11 PM   #16
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Ok, well how do I change the title of this thread then. I started the other one because the title explained better what I was trying to get info on. and the details I gave will put the focus on what i'm looking for. Of do I need to delete this one to be able to put up what I want. Please let me know.

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Willowgirl - did you pick a shutter color?

Aside from the fact that I think that a house with a porch is nicer than one without...

- When I lived in Portland, Oregon there were many homes that had glass-roofed porches or used skylights in the porch to allow in extra light. Some of these had a sort of greenhouse/conservatory look and it was very nice.

Do you have a sketch or pic of what the house would have looked like before?

PS. Part of the reason we bought our house was because of the big front porch, for settin on.
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Willowgirl - did you pick a shutter color?

Aside from the fact that I think that a house with a porch is nicer than one without...

- When I lived in Portland, Oregon there were many homes that had glass-roofed porches or used skylights in the porch to allow in extra light. Some of these had a sort of greenhouse/conservatory look and it was very nice.

Do you have a sketch or pic of what the house would have looked like before?

PS. Part of the reason we bought our house was because of the big front porch, for settin on.

The picture of the house that are posted in this thread are the only ones I have. This is what it looked like when I purchased it. I understand that you like the porch, if it was not a rental, had privacy and was in ok shape I would want it to.

What I'm trying to do is come up with some ideas to make it attractive without the porch.

I didn't realize at the time how bad this house really was. The front porch was not the reason for the purchase. It was more of a negative than a positive for me. I've though of maybe doing the sky light thing in the back of house.
I'm not sure what rentals are like in your area but i find outside shared area's are usually problems with rentals. I've received more complaints about noise or tenants storing or leaving personal items in the area or putting there garbage there before garbage night and forgetting to put it out and it getting ripped up.
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Yeah, I'm sure that a good rule of thumb for Landlords is to assume that if a tenant could possibly mess something up/ get angry/ complain, they will.

I assume that as a landlord you have to balance actual work against potential issues. Is it worth the investment of tearing off the porch and re-designing the front of the building to eliminate the chronic issues related to common areas? I take it, your answer is hopefully, yes.

The cynic in me says that your tenants are going to find something to complain about no matter what; so why spend the time/money? I get you're trying to be pro-active and a good landlord, and good for you, for that.
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I dont really have a good understanding of why you would want to change floor plans or add a bay style addition. Is the bay style addition to break up the boxy look of the house after the porch is removed? Unless there is a need on the interior, I think the addition might not be an economically wise decision. When you start changing the interior floor plan, you start adding enormous cost. The best way to increase rent-getting potential is paint/floors/lighting/fixtures/appliances. People go gaga over can lights and stainless steel. With those two things alone, you can get another 2 or 3 hundred dollars per unit. Back to the exterior. A good way to break up the horizontal/vertical lines would be to add an eyebrow where the porch roof was. That is just a mini-roof extending out from the side of the house and it would provide a break for the siding. Many times people change the siding at the eyebrow. An example would be to put lap siding under the eyebrow, and random edge cedar siding above. Real cedar is high maintenance, but hardie makes a good look alike that is low maintenance. Another way to break up the outside would be to add vinyl arches above the windows. They just screw on over the siding, and if you are going to use vinyl, they can be color matched to your color scheme.
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I dont really have a good understanding of why you would want to change floor plans or add a bay style addition. Is the bay style addition to break up the boxy look of the house after the porch is removed? Unless there is a need on the interior, I think the addition might not be an economically wise decision. When you start changing the interior floor plan, you start adding enormous cost. The best way to increase rent-getting potential is paint/floors/lighting/fixtures/appliances. People go gaga over can lights and stainless steel. With those two things alone, you can get another 2 or 3 hundred dollars per unit. Back to the exterior. A good way to break up the horizontal/vertical lines would be to add an eyebrow where the porch roof was. That is just a mini-roof extending out from the side of the house and it would provide a break for the siding. Many times people change the siding at the eyebrow. An example would be to put lap siding under the eyebrow, and random edge cedar siding above. Real cedar is high maintenance, but hardie makes a good look alike that is low maintenance. Another way to break up the outside would be to add vinyl arches above the windows. They just screw on over the siding, and if you are going to use vinyl, they can be color matched to your color scheme.
I'm not actually wanting to change it from the original design. More like i'm trying to put it back. At some point somebody changed it, with just framed panel walls, covering up heat vents in some places and lots of waited space. They also moved 2 Exterior doors and I dont' think they new what they were doing. Where they took out door in one place can definitely tell inside and outside the house. It doesn't seem to be insulated properly and there is water damage. I want to put it back to make sure everything is ok with framing, insulation, moister etc.

Yes I'm try to find a design so the house wont look boxy. All of the extior of the house will be ripped off, so this is the time for me to make the changes. Hum I think i like the idea of the vinyl arches over the windows.

I just realized maybe some of the suggestions that i'm getting, or people wonder why I'm doing what I'm doing is because we live very different area's. Do you happen to know how much rentals are in your area. A one bedroom or Two.
I live in New Brunswick, Canada. I know there are huge price difference from one area to another and different rental rules.

I've done alot of the painting, flooring, and appliances'. I'll try to put ups some of the pics.
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I'm not actually wanting to change it from the original design. More like i'm trying to put it back. At some point somebody changed it, with just framed panel walls, covering up heat vents in some places and lots of waited space. They also moved 2 Exterior doors and I dont' think they new what they were doing. Where they took out door in one place can definitely tell inside and outside the house. It doesn't seem to be insulated properly and there is water damage. I want to put it back to make sure everything is ok with framing, insulation, moister etc.

Yes I'm try to find a design so the house wont look boxy. All of the extior of the house will be ripped off, so this is the time for me to make the changes. Hum I think i like the idea of the vinyl arches over the windows.

I just realized maybe some of the suggestions that i'm getting, or people wonder why I'm doing what I'm doing is because we live very different area's. Do you happen to know how much rentals are in your area. A one bedroom or Two.
I live in New Brunswick, Canada. I know there are huge price difference from one area to another and different rental rules.

I've done alot of the painting, flooring, and appliances'. I'll try to put ups some of the pics.
The first 3 pics are when I bought the house. In the top one that wall you see on the right, and the front door were done sometime in past by other owner. that wall cuts out at least 6 ft of space.
The second pic is the upstairs cabinets that have a heat vent under them with a little cut out so some heat can get out. I'm putting new cabinet on other wall with L shape for more storage and function. The wall I'm moving it to shares the bathroom wall where the plumbing is already.
The next pic is of the bathroom when I purchased it. You can see the after pic down lower. There were alot of problems with water in that bathroom and leaking in the past which they just covered.
So I'm not doing planning on changing the structure like removing load bearing walls or things like that. I want to move things around for better function and design. I'm not sure the way people think sometimes, I mean with cover the heat vent for the kitchen and putting the cabinets of a wall that had no plumbing. Just things like that. Hope this helps to explain some of the reasons I want to change things.

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