Remove middle pole and add 2 on the outside?

Trucon01

Hi All,

Is it ever possible to remove the standard poles supporting the steel beam, but then adding 2 poles to the same beam, just closer to the ends?

For instance, could I just move it to the left corner where the broom is in the picture? I'd also put another one next to the black pipe so I would have 2 poles instead of 1, but they wouldn't be in the middle.

Thanks.

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joecaption

It would be best to be asking an on site engineer these guestions. Anyone here would just be guessing and that may not work out in your favor when the flooring system fails.

Trucon01

Oh I completely understand that. I was just wondering if it is possible for any situation or is it completely out of the question for all instances.

joed

It depends on what the spans are now and what they would be after.
Also not as simple a just moving the pole. A footing would be needed for each pole. You would need to cut the floor and pour a 2'x2'x2' footing for each pole. This would need to be speced by an engineer.

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Daniel Holzman

It is certainly possible to relocate poles, however the steel beam may need to be augmented with welded on plates. The analysis is not necessarily simple, since poles are point loads, and the beam is continuous over the poles, so the mathematics is surprisingly complex. That is why engineers go to school for many years.

Trucon01

Got it. Thanks all